I'm at a bit of an impass

[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">Most fo you know that I really cant stand larss. The banality of almost all her posts has left me with a lot of contempt for her. I was offered the chance at a peek behind the curtain, a look into what makes her tick. By way of ICQ and PM's over at SPF, I have taken that glance. She's all talking about killing herself. Now, I ask this of you lot. Why should I care? Odd a feeling as it is, and fully knowing that most instances of a person saying "I'm gonna off myself" are cries for attention., I still feel a bit of moral concern over this.

This is so unlike me.

There is a large part of me that wants to answer with very effective ways of ending a life. Another part wants to just ignore it. Still another views it as a setup to get into my head. I know that she has a bit of brain to her, so this might be a bit of the ole cloak and dagger shit.

I guess what I'm asking is.... if you were in my place (faced with the possibility of doing right by a person you dont care for) what would make you act? And how would you carry out whatever you decided to do?

No really, this is an odd moment for me. Makes me feel like I'm not living up to my nick.</FONT c>

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[Mattdecay]

Elaborate a bit. Been talking to her through icq and pms? As yourself?

Me? I'd ignore it. If people would have done that in the first place she wouldn't still be around...

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"Doing crack cocaine doesn't mean snorting cocaine out of someone elses buttcrack. I wish someone would've told me that"-Conan O'Brian

[Time Slipping]

tell her to visit a psyke. he will earn his money, i tell you.............

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"Those who seek my life will be destroyed
They will go down to the depths of the earth
They will be given over to the sword
and become the food of the jackals"

[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">Yeah Matt, she knew full well that it was me she was talking to. One ICQ convo, and a few PM's... I feel like posting the last one here to this thread, just to give you guys a look at it. Dunno if I will tho.

Like I said, an odd morn indeed.</FONT c>

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[Sinister Her]

I honestly think she's trying to get to you.
I'd ignore her or you may end up right where she wants you. I know enough about Larss to know that's not a place I'd like to be.

Good luck, KB ..I'm here if you want to chat.

The truth is that you have to do what will help you rest easier. If that's reaching out to her, so be it. Just put your gloves on before you reach.

[Rabble Rouser]

I can't figure Larss out. But here's something to consider. It's a common practice for people who are suicidal to use humor to cover up their feelings. They do it so that others will not suspect that they are on the brink.

I also am inclined to believe her because the SPF is not a place that you would want to be talking about suicide. All you'd get is a bunch of smartasses saying "be sure your cam is on" and shit like that.

I really don't know what to tell you. Just my two cents on the issue.

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"We must put an end to this. We've seen enough body bags and ballsacks." - Henry Kissinger

[Koliedrus]

AAArrg. This is the most difficult aspect of living behind the glass curtain (did I just coin a phrase?)

PM or email the exchange to me, KB, if you wish.

Don't worry. You're still a bastard.

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Oyster-brain in a cookie jar.

[Faceplant]

KB, i also have been talking with her for a little bit.

but i havent talked with her in a while, and knowing that you are now, i suggest this to you:

do you believe in love over the internet? love over the internet with someone 1000's of miles away?

i assume no.

then you shouldnt care who is going to kill themselves or not over the internet, or 1000's of miles away that you dont know.

dont get rapped up in something that is only going to suck you in.

[Kayla]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Rabble Rouser:
I can't figure Larss out. But here's something to consider. It's a common practice for people who are suicidal to use humor to cover up their feelings. They do it so that others will not suspect that they are on the brink.

I also am inclined to believe her because the SPF is not a place that you would want to be talking about suicide. All you'd get is a bunch of smartasses saying "be sure your cam is on" and shit like that.

I really don't know what to tell you. Just my two cents on the issue.

[/quote]


One of my friends that killed herself was always joking on herself. She was a bit overweight but she always poked fun and got in on the jokes. her suicide note read something like this "i konw i always joke baout how i look but it wasnt funny, it was never funny."

Truthfully KB i always had a bad feeling about larss. Not that shes a jackass or a pain but that she had some problems. Anyone that would degrade themselves that much and think its a joke has way too many problems. If i was in your situation, i would talk seriously with her about this and let her know that you care, because if a human being is taking their life because of things that you may have contributed to, will you truely be happy living with yourself if you find out that she was serious? (did that sentence make sense?) I just hope you find the right thing to do before its too late.

Like Kol said, if you want to talk more, PM me


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Your such an inspiration for the ways that i will never ever choose to be

[Koliedrus]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Faceplant:
KB, i also have been talking with her for a little bit.

but i havent talked with her in a while, and knowing that you are now, i suggest this to you:

do you believe in love over the internet? love over the internet with someone 1000's of miles away?

i assume no.

then you shouldnt care who is going to kill themselves or not over the internet, or 1000's of miles away that you dont know.

dont get rapped up in something that is only going to suck you in.[/quote]


That was sarcasm. Just thought I should point that out to the newcomers. Faceplant is just as "wrapped" as any of us. He also has quite a bit of knowledge in this area.

If your concerned about the well-being of someone, provide whatever information you have. Real name, location, and their local emergency numbers are a plus.


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Oyster-brain in a cookie jar.

[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">Ok, a winner is Faceplant.</FONT c>

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[Faceplant]

thanks Kol, i now know how to spell wrapped...hehehehhe. thanks. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

but anyway, that was not sarcasm, when my friend killed himself, i help, i helped to the best of my extent, because i loved him..and i miss him.

but if this was the same person, i never met, and only talked to on the internet, never met him or even talked to him on the phone, and he lived 1000's of miles away, i wouldnt care less what he did.

but KB, if you still are concerned for her, which im sure you are, because i know what kind of person you are, a kind/caring one, (no sarcasm there either), you can tell her this. i, as well as Rogue do believe that it is ok to take your own life, if you feel the need to self execute for whatever reason, feel free...but it is a cowards way out. it is a s-elfish thing to do.

[This message has been edited by Faceplant (edited 05-12-2001).]

[estero]

<font color=pink>I think Larss is either, really really smart, or really really stupid. I don't know her enough to really know but she is one or the other. I give her props for how she makes a rukus outta the spf. Intelligence or stupidity, that is the question.

KB, its not your problem and I'm sure if she's serious or if its a scream for help, she would have told someone who she cares about and who cares about her. You can't do anything. Don't worry.

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[Kayla]

anyone else notice the word s elfish does not show up see

*******
whats that all about??

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Your such an inspiration for the ways that i will never ever choose to be

[Faceplant]

kaye.
shes a very smart person, and im glad that you too, are smart enough to observe this.

you see, from what she told me, she is smart, playing in contests and such involving 'smart' questions, like a jepordy contest or something is the way i saw it.

i also see that she is smart in another way. i notice that myself, Larss, and Tom Green believe it or not, have to be extremely smart to be that dumb.

remember, its all a joke in the end, especailly here on the internet. we all wear different faces for different people, and different situations.

[Faceplant]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kayla610:
anyone else notice the word s elfish does not show up see

*******
whats that all about??

[/quote]

yes, what is up with that?

i edited my post to include a - so it can be seen.

[Mudflap]

<FONT COLOR="orange">My suggestion for KB:

Send her a message encouraging her not to take her own life and to seek help where she may find it in her own locale.

Remember: You are not responsible for her life. Sure, you've given her a hard time, but she ate it up like George Foreman at an all you can eat buffet. I myself have both supported her and flamed her.

This shocks me to the point of nausea, but I actually agree with Faceplant on one point. Don't get sucked in.

Good luck you King of Bastards.</FONT c>

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<FONT COLOR="orange">Even the losers...
Get lucky sometimes.</FONT c>

[Buddha's Penis!]

i have two points, unrelated:
1) do what you have to do. forget anything that has come before and do what will let you sleep better tonight. don't let your name get in the way of your brain.
2) larrs is smarter than her "character", but she's still not that smart. antagonism is no real talent, and she does it in a brainless way. intentional antagonism is one of my least favourite things, because it's so damn transparent. i'm impressed with her commitment to the project, though.

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you don't know anything until you know everything.

[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Faceplant:
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kayla610:
anyone else notice the word s elfish does not show up see

*******
whats that all about??

[/quote]

yes, what is up with that?

i edited my post to include a - so it can be seen.[/quote]

It's just another one of RW's power trips, he went all dick tatory about it in a thread a while back.

[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:

Would you care to explain that statement before or after I get irritated?
[/quote]

Do I still have a choice?

[gone~away]

about larss...

i had a fascination with her immediately after seeing her post...

i can't explain it, but i wanted to observe her... and i did. i came to several conclusions about her that have held to be true.

we never spoke outside of a couple pms that she sent me.... in my replies i encouraged her to try and be herself instead of 'the larssifier', this action made her uncomfortable (i believe she felt 'caught' in her little game) and we haven't spoken outside of the forum since.

i too would be wary kb that it's all an elaborate headgame... but another part of me wonders

i have no doubt in my mind that the girl is definetely gifted, and if there was anything i thought i could do to help her, i would have done it already... but as someone wise said to me yesterday 'even rats know when to leave a sinking ship'

i don't think that your efforts would be of use KB.... but if you think they might be, i urge you to make use of them...

fucking waste of a good mind if you ask me.....

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[skalie]

Either.....

A The thread somehow got deleted
B It wasn't you that started it

In any case.....

A I can't believe I just spent 10 minutes looking for the fucking thing
B Yes I am going to seek help

Back to the topic.....

A In the internet world committing suicide means not paying your phone bill.
B From my limited personal experience I've noted that the one's who talk about suicide are the ones who fail the attempt, the cry for attention type.
The true suicides take you by surprise and leave a lot of people puzzling for the rest of their lives.

[Buddha's Penis!]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by gone~away:
waste of a good mind if you ask me.....

[/quote]

i agree with that, but waste it is. unsalvageable, for our(or my) purposes.

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