Death.

[Skeet]

So how do you people handle death? And more importantly, what comforts you when you think that someday, you WILL die? How do you not live in terror everyday?


(and since this is my first topic here, I'll warn you, I do not believe in spell check or the use of proper grammer. Sorry.)

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[Buddha's Penis!]

i was just thinking about this. not being a particularly reactionary person and being fairly over-rational, i am fully prepared for the death of a friend or family member. i've only lost grandparents currently, and that was easy because they were old and sick and i didn't know them that well. i am sure i can handle any death except an accidental death of a friend or whatever that i witness, in which case i would freak right out and be useless in any normal sense until the situation was resolved (ambulance called, corpse taken away, etc).
i think of this because of the death of an acquaintance a few years ago, where he fell while hiking with a bunch of friends. he was killed instantly, i think. this would fuck me up beyond all reason, until it was dealt with as i said before.

as for my own death, i'm not afraid. i'm cautious most of the time and conscious of risks when i'm not, so i take full responsibility for anything that may befall me. death is inevitable. i don't worry about it, but i try my damnedest to avoid it.

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[This message has been edited by Buddha's Penis! (edited 05-11-2001).]

[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">I see no point in worrying too much about death. Truth be told, to do so would take away from living a full life, making ones death all the more tragic. Not to say that death is a tragic thing in and of itself. It's a critical part of life. Looking at it from a purely natural point of view, we return to the earth to feed ourselves back into the lives of other things.
Yes, it's sad when someone we care for is taken from us. Nameless deaths are easy to laugh off, i do it all the time. I've sen a person die right before my eyes. no one I knew al that well, so it didnt phase me really. I knew this kid was dying before he went. A great many of the other people who say this were all shaken up by it. i think I called them weak at the time, but now I can see that they just bought in to the readily digested view of death.

Anyway, I dont want to die, it's a pretty obvious feeling. But when it happens, I would like to do it on my terms. Even if I end up getting shot, stabbed what have you. I'd like to go out in a way that reflects my life. that's about the best death I can think of. One that puts a point of punctuation to the totality of the life that came before it.</FONT c>

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[Rabble Rouser]

I've had to deal with death a lot in my life, so maybe I've become desensitized to it, but I don't see the point in crying over the dead person...it's not going to bring them back. Would they want you to be crying? Would they want you to put your life on hold because of them? Would they want you to be miserable. I think I can safely assume that in most cases, the answer would be no. Sure, I'll feel upset, but I try not to dwell on it, accept it, and move on.

I also don't go to funerals (except in the cases of family members because my family (extended, anyway) is extremely traditional and religious, and not attending can get you forever shunned from the family) because I believe that funerals signify the end. Gone. Forever. I don't believe that people are gone forever when they die. And it's not really about reincarnation either. I believe that they live on forever within us, and attending an event that signifies the end is wrong (for lack of a better word).

As for my own death, I've had a few near-death experiences, and it's made me more aware of my mortality. Honestly, I don't want to die...but I'm more afraid of how I will die than when. But what can I do? It'll happen when the time is right.

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[Kayla]

Ok now i feel like i have time to properly respond to this post. Even though i basically did so over at SPF.

I am absolutely 110% terrified of death. So i don't think about it. When the thought does cross my mind i just tell myself that i have many many many more years to worry. My lifes motto is live for today. I do what makes me happy because i know that the brutal reality is that one day i wont be here to do it.

uhm,maybe ill have more to add later
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Your such an inspiration for the ways that i will never ever choose to be

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[Skeet]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kayla610:
Ok now i feel like i have time to properly respond to this post. Even though i basically did so over at SPF.

I am absolutely 110% terrified of death. So i don't think about it. When the thought does cross my mind i just tell myself that i have many many many more years to worry. My lifes motto is live for today. I do what makes me happy because i know that the brutal reality is that one day i wont be here to do it.

uhm,maybe ill have more to add later[/quote]

I try to do that too. But I'm worried that if I don't make my peace soon, whenever I get around to it, when i feel my time is coming, I won't have long enough. So, in trying to accept death, I'm constantly around it, even months ago and months from now, maybe.



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[PB]

This is a hard subject for me. Particularly this part of the year. Most people do have to in life deal with the death of their grandparents and sometimes their parents. SOme times even their own children.
I don't deal with Death well... well let me rephrase that... I don't deal with Sudden death well. My best friend was killed in a car wreck 4 years ago this june. Leaving behind a 7 month old baby, and i think that only makes it worse. She wasn't just my best friend but she was mackenzie's mother. Not only did I loose my "other half" but my god daughter lost her mother. I guess sudden death that makes no fucking sense gets me the most. I do however deal better with other deaths. But it is a subject that i think of often and wish that i did not./ I do not fear death, like someone else said, i fear the method of my death and the timing. I say that because i do not want my son to grow up and not have a mother. I want to see him graduate get married do all those types of things. Point blank I'm more afraid of having to suffer through loosing someone else so close than I am of my own death! I know it will come, and i have no desire to live a really long time.. if i have to depend on someone else to take care of me, it isn't living anyways... That's my 2 cents.. even though it is a big fucking jumble mess there./ sorry../..

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[gone~away]

a lot of your current fear must come from the recent passing of your friend john (yes, i realize that was obvious)

but what you have to understand is that it's a waste of your life, the life you still have, to worry about death.

mourning need not be easy or quick... but it shouldn't consume you... there are no time machines, hindsight is 20/20, and what's happened will stay that way..

death is inevitable... even should we become immortal as a species we will still die as we pollute and destroy our earth, and the subsequent earths we reach (should space travel extend that far)... there is no permanence to anything, in the scheme of time your life will amount to but an insignificant nanosecond when compared to the billions of years this ball of dirt stood majestic and unmoving.

life is a gift, not from a deity or higher power, but from ourselves... how we live our life is our choice. and you need to choose how much anxiety you want to allow in, how much doubt, fear...

ive never lost a friend the way you have... but i have lost my friends, they've been gone for two months since i left toronto, and i feel a lot of loss... dont think im not being sympathetic...

i hope you can make some sort of peace with yourself skeet, noone can do that for you, it is my hope however that what i have written might have a speck of usefulness to you..

good luck with your thoughts

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[Deadpool]

Sure it scares me a bit sometimes when I think my own mortality. But it doesn't terrify me in any ways. When I think about, I would seem illogical to dwell upon ones mortality, due to the fact that death is inevitable. Now for the death of others, I think think I have become somewhat desensitized. I have lost family and friends, and when I think about, it would seem a bit sad, but then again so many people die that it would seem the passing away of one person would seem trivial. Anyway.....

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[Skeet]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by gone~away:
a lot of your current fear must come from the recent passing of your friend john (yes, i realize that was obvious)

but what you have to understand is that it's a waste of your life, the life you still have, to worry about death.

mourning need not be easy or quick... but it shouldn't consume you... there are no time machines, hindsight is 20/20, and what's happened will stay that way..

death is inevitable... even should we become immortal as a species we will still die as we pollute and destroy our earth, and the subsequent earths we reach (should space travel extend that far)... there is no permanence to anything, in the scheme of time your life will amount to but an insignificant nanosecond when compared to the billions of years this ball of dirt stood majestic and unmoving.

life is a gift, not from a deity or higher power, but from ourselves... how we live our life is our choice. and you need to choose how much anxiety you want to allow in, how much doubt, fear...

ive never lost a friend the way you have... but i have lost my friends, they've been gone for two months since i left toronto, and i feel a lot of loss... dont think im not being sympathetic...

i hope you can make some sort of peace with yourself skeet, noone can do that for you, it is my hope however that what i have written might have a speck of usefulness to you..

good luck with your thoughts

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This is strange, but this fear of death started a bit before John got his cancer, and has been getting worse ever since. it just struck me one day, the fear of oblivion..eek. I hate our society for not teaching us about death at an earley age, showing us thats its natural and ok. Instead they drill it into us that death is awful and should be avoided at all costs.

And i do understand all of my life that I am wasting in worry, but I have been trying so hard... Alan Watts and Kung Fu help alot, but I just can't seem to break through. Blarg.


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