Post War Concentration Camp(s)

[Barbie]

Michael's Oma told us the most amazing story. Though she never expected either one of us to believe her.

Oma is German born but lived in Poland. She was Luthern and she came from a good family. She had a wonderful childhood, many friends and a close family, but when she was 14 she and her family were put in a concentration camps.

She spent 4 years in a Post WWII Concentration camp run by Jews. (1945-1949) She lost her sisters, her brother, her mother and her father.

Her mother died of typhoid. She never knew how the rest of her family succumbed. They were ripped apart and all put into different concentration camps.

She was not at Bergen/Belsen or at Auschwitz. It was a small camp in a small community hidden in the woods, with a deep valley on the other side.

After two years of being in this camp, and not seeing her family, she witnessed something horrible.

One of the girls in the camp, out of anger and frustration, said to the Jew, “Just you wait until Hitler come back!”
The girl and Oma (guilty by association) were hauled off to a “pool room” where they kept a large vat of “something horrible”. The girl was made to strip to nothing, then she was forced (like walking a plank) into the “something horrible”.
Oma discovered it was acid or acid like because the girl was horribly murdered this way.
Her body was eaten up by the acid and Oma could hear her “frying.”

There were many more horrible stories along with this.

In the Spring of 1949, the American Red Cross liberated the camp.

These Jews were never prosecuted for these crimes. They were “dismissed.”

Oma tells me of a lady who lived in Montreal (or was it Quebec City?) who wrote an article for the Ottawa Citizen. She was a survivor of one such camp but nothing since then.

I can’t find ANYTHING on Jew run concentration camps post WWII.

If you can, please let me know?

[Cruise Director]

I've never heard of this either. It does not really surprise me, though. I'm sure the old addage of "an eye for an eye" was played out on every level after the war.

[SimpleSimon]

Where, specifically, was this alleged camp located? Keep in mind, Poland was overrun by the Russians in 1945, as was the eastern 1/3 of Germany. I rather doubt the American Red Cross, or any red cross organization at all, was liberating any prisons anywhere in eastern europe in 1949.

At the end of WWII there were not enough jews left in Poland to make up a brass band, let alone organize a private concentration camp.

[Barbie]

Originally posted by SimpleSimon
Where, specifically, was this alleged camp located? Keep in mind, Poland was overrun by the Russians in 1945, as was the eastern 1/3 of Germany. I rather doubt the American Red Cross, or any red cross organization at all, was liberating any prisons anywhere in eastern europe in 1949.

At the end of WWII there were not enough jews left in Poland to make up a brass band, let alone organize a private concentration camp.

First I was going to ask, "Are you calling Oma a liar?" and then I thought best to go and ask her to clarify.
It was Prussia, not Poland as I had stated.

This DID happen. I will find info and attempt to prove it.

I will not discount the stories of Oma who was in tears showing her scars.

They were JEW run.

[Barbie]

"An Eye For An Eye" by John Stack (http://atlanta.indymedia.org/newswire/display/21209/index.php)

28 Sep 2003
"Interestingly, the areas that were German became Polish after being awarded to Poland by Stalin. The German civilian population was removed in ethnic cleansing campaigns conducted BY JEWS AGAINST GERMANS! John Sack wrote a book about this called "An eye for an eye".

Nazi brutality is part or our daily diet. Has been for years. Over half a century after the end of the war you can hardly open a newspaper or watch TV for more than a couple of hours without hearing about it, thanks to the most successful "public relations campaign" ever.
It is inspired by Organized Jewry and media who know which side their bread is buttered on. It also has some substance to it But what you rarely hear is what the Jews themselves are capable of - in Israel, where the Begins and other terrorists were every bit as bad as the Nazis, and in postwar Poland, where concentration camps run by Jews made Auschwitz look like a holiday camp.

There have been a few cries and whispers about that. As early as August, 1945, Winston Churchill stated that it was "not impossible that tragedy on a prodigious scale was unfolding itself behind the Iron Curtain". But it has been left to a brave Jew - John Sack - to give us the unchallengeable details in his book "An Eye For An Eye".

Only a Jew could have written the story. Mr. Sack has been called a lot of nasty names, of course, but has been able to refute every claim made against him. His facts have been cross-referenced and checked, and it took him seven years to do the research. It is so good, in fact, that his critics mounted a massive campaign to prevent the book from seeing the light of day.

"Not for sixty years," it is stated on the cover," has a book been so brutally....suppressed as An Eye For An Eye. One major newspaper, one major magazine, and three major publishers paid $40,000 for it but were scared off. One printed 6,000 books, and then pulped them."

When it finally broke the print barrier, a headline in the Miami Jewish Tribune read: "Do me a favor. Don't read this book." They didn't want to know that Jews can be just as inhuman as anyone else.

Inhuman is an inadequate word for what happened in the immediate post-war period in Poland. In the communist camps, most of the commandants were Jews seeking revenge, and as the author puts it, "In 1945 they killed a great number of Germans. Not Nazis, not Hitler's trigger men, but German civilians, German men, women, children and babies whose "'crime' was just to be German."

Some of the things that were done are sickening to read about. In a field near Lamsdorf, 500 Poles had been buried and German women were forced to dig up the putrifying bodies.

"The faces were rotten, the flesh was glue, and the women were told to lie down with them."
The women had their faces pushed into the slimy dead faces. "Hug them." "Kiss them!" "Make love to them!" Sixty-four of the women died of typhus. In the same camp thousands of Germans died.
Torture was routine. A 14-year-old boy had his hair set on fire with gasoline. He ended up in an insane asylum.

A Jew called Shlomo (Solomon) Morel was one of the worst criminals. He starved, beat and murdered indiscriminately. He would pile his victims up like logs, lying crosswise, and beat them with clubs "like a hunter killing a pod of seals." Those at the top of the pile screamed for mercy.Those in the middle couldn't breathe.Those at the bottom lost their viscera and died.

A Pole commented that he would rather spend ten years in Auschwitz than any time at all in Morel's camp.

"What some Germans did to the Jews was monstrous. But the first people to do it again were the ones who had said, "Never again!" said another. One source stated that what happened to the Jews was very sad, "but there was another holocaust, too."

All this happened under the Office of State Security, which ran 1,255 camps in which twenty to twenty-five per cent of the inmates died. A Jew was the real head of the "Office" as it was known, and three-fourths of the Office in one regional HQ were Jews, as were thirty per cent of the top officers in Warsaw.

A secret study by the German government in 1974 concluded that there were probably 200,000 or more people in the prisons and camps, with a death rate of twenty to fifty per cent. Sack estimates that 60,000 to 80,000 died, "But it may have been higher, because in some camps 80 per cent died."

Ethnic cleansing? Nothing new about that. Five million Germans were expelled from Poland and Polish-administered territory. Altogether, sixteen million Germans were forced out of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Romania, and Yugoslavia. It was the biggest forced migration in human history.

Many of the ?Office? people emigrated to the U.S. Some came to Canada. But there will be no extradition trials for them. As for Morel, he got to Israel, and when the Poles asked the Israeli Minister of Justice to extradite him they were told that the statute of limitations ended in 1965. He is now a citizen. If he ever leaves, Interpol could arrest him.

John Sack is a reporter of enormous courage. When asked how a Jew could write a book like this, his comment is: "How could a Jew NOT write it!"

You can see John Sacks Website at: http://www.johnsack.com

[from the johnsack.com website]

Both 60 Minutes and The New York Times have corroborated what Sack wrote: that late in World War II, thousands of Jews sought revenge for the Holocaust.

They set up 1,255 concentration camps for German civilians—German men, women, children and babies. There they beat, whipped, tortured and murdered the Germans.

The real-life people in An Eye for an Eye are Jews like Shlomo (left) who turned the Holocaust upside-down.



60 minutes corroboration (http://www.johnsack.com/an_eye_for_an_eye_corroboration.htm)

It happened. Now I let Oma know that there are other's out there. Not just her. Who told their stories.

[SimpleSimon]

News to me, but not terribly surprising.

Lets say that there were 250,000 ethnic Germans interned in these camps, and the death rate was 50%. 125,000 dead Germans /= 4,000,000 dead european Jews.

I guess, in the circumstances, my surprise is that there were not more Germans slaughtered.

[Billyman]

What's an Oma?

[ms. bing]

many germans migrated to south america. eva's dad has a friend from argentina whose father is german. south america was a good place for germans and other europeans to go after the war, some to escape prosecution and others to escape the backlash.

[Barbie]

Originally posted by Billyman
What's an Oma?

Grandmother

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

What goes around comes around. My Karma ran over my dogma. Good god I'm a dork.