Hunting wabbits.

[Billyman]

No, not really wabbits. Unless you were describing a sexual act using a simile. Something like “Man I bet she could fuck like an epileptic wabbit with the hiccups”.

Anywayz, since being single, again, I’m naturally looking around, busting heads and asking questions later. Ok, maybe not quite like that either. Hmmm….

I’m in the market and looking at what’s on sale. I’ve learned that ladies around my own age are fairly simple bait and hook. I’m not saying they’re easy to land in the sack (although they may be, dunno, haven’t tried that yet), but it’s extremely easy to meet them and engage in conversation. They’re not rapped up in what’s hip or cooj, just who you are.

No matter where I am or where I go, if I see a pretty lady that looks late 20’s to early 30’s and has no ring, I find myself in sometimes brief, sometimes lengthy conversation. Thus far I’ve had two ladies ask ME for my phone number (there were exchanges) and I’ve acquired one with asking for it from another. I’m setup to go on a blind date with a co-workers wife’s friend next weekend (at least I hope she’s blind, it’ll better my chances). :p

Now I have no intentions on seeing how many ladies I can nail. For whatever strange reason, action in the bedroom, living room, kitchen, whatever, hasn’t even been something considered or remotely thought about. At current, I’m just shopping (for what, I have no idea). Here it comes, the thing every guy will tell you……..”I can get laid anytime I want”. Well in my case, this is the foremost truth. I’ve some great friends (husband and wife) who are swingers and I can nail his bad ass wife anytime. Only thing is, I haven’t had the desire. Don’t get me wrong, seXor is cooj and all, it just hasn’t been a priority.

Exercise caution!

Some of the ladies I’ve met (especially the one’s in there early 30’s) are “damaged goods”. 5 kids, twice divorced and looking for a knight in shinning armor or the male equivalent to Calgon. Not saying they’re bad people, just something I care not get involved in.

Others feel “over the hill”, never been married, no kids and feel their biological clock ticking possibly in reverse and coming to get them. STEER CLEAR! STEER CLEAR!

And then, there are those that I have thoroughly enjoyed talking to. In and out of relationships up till now, maybe a bad marriage a few years back that holds insignificance but memories. These are the ladies I have found most appealing. Some of which don’t have the big ole floppidy titties or the ass that goes “BAM!” But are attractive in their own right. I do have standards you know.

I’m also being upfront and honest with everyone I meet. So far it seems to be the best policy. It’s just weird I guess. I interact with woman ages 16 to 60 on a daily basis. I’ve always been well connected with people in my age group but just never tried dating one until recently.

Man us old folks are cooj.

[Mudflap]

You go out with that girl?

You fuck her?

Good man.

[MAC]

"I'm just shopping"

I know that feeling.
I never watch TV but when my VCR went bad I had the urge to get another. Ok, that's a real bad analogy. But the effect is the same. You know that something is important to you and you want it.

Now I've been bitter enough and frustrated enough with my new found singleness. I never expected to be single again and I was growing more fond of NOT being single each day. Then I was dumped. I'm still a dad and now I'm and ex-husband but I'm not married.

Billy, you seem to be doing well here, where I am not. You meet lots of different ladys. Spend a little time to scope them out and are able to pick a few that peak your interest. Kudos to you, my friend.

I know I've bitched about this before, but I'll try to do it from a more civil stand point now.
Being single and 30 where I live and work, for dating, is like being the only survivor of your D-Day normandy invasion squad.
I am surrounded by fresh out of highschool girls (that's not necessarily a bad thing) who will either leave or marry within the next 2 years. I'm not big on the idea of dating a string of girls 10 years younger than me just so they can pack up and leave. I'd sooner do without than go that route.
The few girls my age who are single have never BEEN single. They've dated non stop since they where 15 or 16 and been married at least once. I cannot stress the weak character this forges in these women. They have NEVER not had a boy friend or husband in their entire adult lives. They may have managed to pay their own bills when th eyhad to but they never did well, they never thrived and they ALWAYS ran back to another man.
Then there are the 30+ gals who have absolutely destroyed their lives. The drugs, the multiple juvenile delinquent children, the debt, and all built out of bad habits and self loathing behaviour that cannot be fixed. I've never seen it. not once. After the scond kid, if she doesn't get her life straight she never, ever will.

So basically I lack the group of late 20's early 30's women who have ever been truely independant, are at least semi-educated, and who have made the decisions about their lifestyle without damaging themselves first.

If I lived 30 miles away in the city it'd be a different story. But out here I won't meet anyone worth dining with until someone else introduces me.

Which brings me to my actual personal problem:
I'm not woman shopping.
I'm wife shopping.

That doesn't mean I'm going to marry the first girl who kisses me, it means I'm not going to kiss any woman who isn't the female-role-model I want for my daughter (which encompasses alot).

That is my absolute determining force.
There is nothing I need from a woman that is more important than what type of woman she is. In my daily routine there is nothing even close.

All jokes about tattooed, tounge studded girls aside, one will pop up one day until then don't think I'm being hard on the locals just because I won't fuck them.

[Mudflap]

MAC, it sounds to me like you want a woman close to your age that hasn't accumulated enough experience in "life" to be damaged goods.

I'd like to point out that your ex-wife was very young and deficient in "life" experience when you two met and eventually married. She left you high and dry and moved herself and your daughter to California to get some of that "life" experience. It could be because of the way you treated her. It could have had something to do with her character. Maybe a combination of both. I can only speculate and I do have an opinion, but it doesn't have any bearing on the point I'm trying to make.

Every thing you learn about every woman you know or meet is a red flag to you. You are gun shy when it comes to relationships. Its understandable and reflects well on you that you take relationships seriously and desire substance and meaning over sex and idle companionship.

Some of the mistakes people make and experiences they have, fuck people for life. They become damaged goods and bring headache, heartache, and hardship to future relationships. It happens to women AND men. You're trying to avoid women like these. (good call) You sure as hell don't want to be one of these men. You won't know for sure until you take the plunge, let your guard down, and develop feelings for another woman. Perhaps its your fear of discovering that you yourself may be damaged goods that prompts you to discount as a potential mate virtually every single woman you know and meet. I'll be damned if I know. I have only a small clue of whats inside your head.

I do know whats in your heart. It would be a very sad thing for you not to find the will to once again share it with a deserving woman.

As far as women go, the ones with some of that "life" experience are the best ones to get to know. Women that have had previous relationships. Women that have been screwed over by jerks. Women that have endured some low points in life and overcome them. You know what makes these women BETTER than the inexperienced, undamaged ones? The good ones have PERSPECTIVE that will allow them to accept your faults and appreciate everything positive you have to offer. They aren't quick to open their hearts because they have the same gun shyness that you have. This is a good thing. Emotions tempered with caution and a reverence for the genuine article rather than companionship regardless of chemistry and sex without true feelings.

Its not about lowering one's standards. Its about being realistic.

The game isn't ever gonna change just because the playah hates it.

I had a conversation with Torque the other night and between his ramblings about cereal, guns, and multiple friends named "Dave," he said something rather profound.

Torque said: (paraphrased)

Morals stay the same, but the rules can change.



I wish you peace, love, and soul MAC. (Respect the Don)

Till you find it, I'm gonna continue to have fun with you by prompting you to hook up with tattooed, pierced, skinny white chicks, and write letters to hottie incarcerated Latinas.

Because that's how Mudflap defines a good pal.

[MAC]

muddy, you summed it up with your first statement

"a woman close to your age that hasn't accumulated enough experience in "life" to be damaged goods."

living does NOT have to damage you

I am not searching for a unicorn here.

Just because something isn't prevelent doesn't make it wrong to want it or impossible to find.

So I reiterate. There is NO pool of women within 5 years of my age within 15 miles of my home to date, except a few who are "unfit for service".

edit:

Billy, I 'm sorry for sidetracking your thread. Everything I said her I've said elsewhere. I hope you find one as good as Jo.
...who likes iguanas! :)

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

Revel in your singleness! Being a slut is fun!!!

[Mudflap]

Heed the voice of experience!

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

Still not getting any, mudfag?

[skalie]

Morals stay the same, but the rules can change.


yep

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

Morals stay the same? That's news to me.

[Mudflap]

Originally posted by MuffyTheVampyreLayer
Still not getting any, mudfag?


No. :wtc:



Morals stay the same? That's news to me.

You have to take it in context.

Philosophy majors must be a major pain in the ass to talk to.

[Koliedrus]

Have you ever had a thought, wanted to tell someone and just could not fucking get the thing to the front of your mind no matter how hard you concentrate? You know, the voice of a cartoon character that acted in some movie. Ah, what was it... Had something to do with a treehouse...

And then, when you're not trying, it pops up.

Sid and I happened like that. We weren't "looking". More like, "It'll come to me eventually".

Go be yourself for a while. Truth is, you won't want a relationship in which you have to put on an act.

Sid and I married in our early thirties if that's any help.

[MrsKol]

Weellll...ummmm....he was in his early thirties. My age is of no consequence.

[Billyman]

Originally posted by MAC
edit:

Billy, I 'm sorry for sidetracking your thread. Everything I said her I've said elsewhere.

Are you kidding me? This thread is going great if you ask me. Since jumping back on the bandwagon, do you know how many times I’ve thought about you Mac? (not that I want to go out with you smartass) just thinking about your situation and things you’ve said in the past.

I honest can’t tell you how many women I’ve slept with, how many I’ve kissed or how many I’ve “felt up”. I was a slut, sue me. I was a kid to early adulthood with opportunities and opportunities I took. But even with all the jizz flying around, I only, whole heartedly, loved three women my entire life. One of which is dead, the other is my ex-wife and the last is my most recent ex-girlfriend.

I didn’t enter marriage expecting not to grow old with my wife, but the “end” was out of my hands and I’m still to this day baffled by that one. And to this day, Angela holds a special place in my heart and in many ways, I still love her. I don’t think anything can change that.

I had all intentions of marrying Jo. I had played out us growing old together in my head with a few little shits running around several times. The thought was more than pleasing but she being 10 years younger than I, I had to be patient, I had to wait to see how or if her priorities changed. Mac pointed out something which was part of Jo’s and my downfall. It was the “never been single” situation. Jo is turning 21 in a few months (which opens doors to a world she has yet to experience and one that I’ve “been there done that”). Since her early teens, she had never been without someone’s arm to hold on too. She felt she needed to be like Willy for a change or at least give it a shot. How can I fault her for that? I’m not the happiest camper about it, but I’m an understanding one. And although I still love her so and she will always hold another special place in my heart, I must press on.

By moving forward, I don’t feel it makes any of my past experiences or relationships less significant, it makes me human, one with a big heart with storage space. I told myself many times after Susan (the girl that is dead) and I broke up that I will marry the first girl that made me forget about her. I later realized that if I held myself to that, I’d be single for the rest of my life.

I too am looking for a wife, but “I must weed out all non-hackers who do not pack the gear to serve in my beloved core”. And that takes time, patience, and interaction.

[Koliedrus]

Originally posted by MrsKol
Weellll...ummmm....he was in his early thirties. My age is of no consequence.

Cradle-robber.