Birth control 'research'

[3MTA3]

Ok, so Im trying to accumulate a bunch of different 'baby stats' as I call them...and one that I cant find is the number in dollars that Americans spend on birth control per year...Ive got a few telephone numbers Im going to call of various makers of birth control devices but Id rather not have to contact them all...I need a nice compact figure...anyone got a good lead on something like this or maybe have it in the back of their head?

[Lightbulb]

Not enough.

[skalie]

Quite

[Pianomahnn]

Shit!

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

Try the Ministry of Health - or whatever you call that in America. Also, what do you mean by 'birth control'? Are you talking about preventatives or abortificants or both? Some of the studies bundle the two together, others don't. Certain things like IUD's are used both to terminate an unwanted pregnancy or as a preventative...which can make the number crunching difficult.

[Venus]

I spent about $120. on birth control pills per year. But I don't know how much my insurance company spends on my birth control pills. Matt's spent nothing as far as I'm aware. But I don't know if that helps you at all :D

[Barbie]

I haven't bought birth control since 1992.

Is a tubaligation for the purpose of not getting pregnant being included in your study?

How about Hysterectomy?

[squee]

Why does insurance pay for birth control pills again?

[ms. bing]

planned parenthood might be good. they usually have figures such as that because being a non-profit they have to have figures to show the gov't to justify their existence.

[Venus]

Originally posted by squee
Why does insurance pay for birth control pills again?


Because it's a perscription drug, and it costs less than paying for the hospital stay when a child is born, and less than paying for the "well baby" check ups, and much less than all the "not-so-well baby" check ups.

[Barbie]

squee? do you think that insurance SHOULDN'T cover this?

[Venus]

Squee: Of course not! You choose to have sex, you should have to live with whatever conciquenses come from it.

Venus: But I was on birth controle before I had a boyfriend too.

Squee: You shouldn't go around fucking anyone who comes along.

Venus: I use it more to regulate my periods than birth controle.

Squee: Then it's something you choose to have, therefore they shouldn't cover it.

Venus: Whatever Squee.


Note: This is not an actual conversation that took place. It was all in my head.

[3MTA3]

Should the federal govt. offer to pay in part or in full the birth control costs of American females of 'reproductive' age if they desire?

[MAC]

ok, the fact that we buy insurance to pay for medicine at all is sad.

anbd, as far as I'm concerned, is the primary reason why medicine is so incredibly expensive.
Imagine that your boss buys payroll insurance:
every week he adds up your hours and reports it to the insurance company who has 30 days to cut your check
unless you had a bunch of overtime or unexplained sick days or something weird
then they send your payroll statement to an investigator who has 30 days to find out if its right or not
he reports back to some form of oversight who then has 30 days to send it back to the accounts payable dept
who has 30 days to pay you

you just waited 4 months for your paycheck because you worked late a couple days to make extra money

I won't even go into the cost of drugs based on cult-like-popularity, fickle gov't intrusion, inconsistant fda standards, and recovery of research losses based on political agendas

but I digress.

birth control pills have had one tremendous benfit that has not been addressed enough. In many cases it acts as horomone therapy. I have known lots of girls with very irregular periods and (possibly unrelated) very odd temperments, and the pill straightened them out, which made them happier and healthier. (I also know quiet a few who took th epill from very young and developed ovarian cysts but they may be unrelated)

However, as long as we're puttignwords in squee's mouth, i will agree with the sentiment venus is jumping on him for.
The pill hasn't made women free of some invisible stigma and duty to mankind, its made them act like idiots in great mass quantity.

I'm sorry but just because the body can do it, doesn't mean the mind can handle it. They fuck freely then purge their conscience, over and over.

Having sex IS a choice
Who you have sex with IS a choice.
The result of sex IS a choice.

I hope you're not going to tell me you got on the pill because you where stupid kid and it was some sort of seat-belt like safety harness.

thats just fucking sad (pardon the pun)

[RiZZ]

yeah

[Venus]

Originally posted by MAC

However, as long as we're puttignwords in squee's mouth, i will agree with the sentiment venus is jumping on him for.
The pill hasn't made women free of some invisible stigma and duty to mankind, its made them act like idiots in great mass quantity.

I'm sorry but just because the body can do it, doesn't mean the mind can handle it. They fuck freely then purge their conscience, over and over.

Having sex IS a choice
Who you have sex with IS a choice.
The result of sex IS a choice.

I hope you're not going to tell me you got on the pill because you where stupid kid and it was some sort of seat-belt like safety harness.

thats just fucking sad (pardon the pun)

No, actually I got on the pill because I had my first child with my husband, but didn't want another one. Now that I'm not married anymore, I stay on them because they provide me with very regular (hell I totally freaked because I was 1 day late), very light periods. I also stay on them because I am very much in love with Matt, yet, I just don't want another kid right now, and he's not really ready for it yet either. For many girls it has nothing to do with wanting to sleep around. My friend Cynthia had been on Depo. She hadn't had a period in 4 years. She had been off depo for 3 of those 4 years. The gyno gave her a perscription for b/c pills, saying that they would help to regulate her periods, and more importantly, give her a starting period. My friend Myriha is on them now, not because she's sleeping around, hell it's been months since she's had sex, much less with anyone other than Jake, but because she wants the regularity. That's where my argument comes in. Trust me, as males, it's less stressing, and much easier when the girlfriend is on b/c pills. Less PMS, milder periods, and regularity to keep you from becoming nervous.

You're right, just because the body can do it doesn't mean it should...but it's not like you have to be a whore to be on b/c pills.

[sauron]

Originally posted by RiZZ
i think there should be free helth care period

i pay nearly 1/3 of my paycheck to taxes


Several european countries have social medicine.. The drawback? More taxes.

AFAIR, the lowest tax bracket in Norway (one such country with social medicine), is 30% - and you land in that tax bracket if you make over $2000/year.

If I was making what I currently make in the US, in Norway, I'd be paying upwards of 50% or more in taxes. (My stepfather at one point was paying $60-70% income taxes)

So, you want "free" health care, huh?

I myself, am very happy to be paying "only" 30% income tax...

- d.

[slappy]

<font color=#ff9900>Wow! That's pretty impressive RiZZ. So that means, if I did my sums correctly, you should be earning a minimum of $27,950 a year, in which case you should be able to afford your own healthcare.</font>

[Venus]

Different health insurance providers cost different...

I pay about $200. a month extra for health care. But the insurance will only pay 80% of the bills. They won't pay any lab work (so blood work, preg. tests pap results nothing like that is covered, that's all straight out of my pocket), and if I or Alexys should need to be in the hospital overnight, $500. of the bill (per person) comes straight out of my pocket. So lets say that I got in a car accident, Alexys and I are both in the hospital for 2 days. *knocks on wood* I automatically pay $1000. Then, the insurance company will pick up 80% of the rest of the bill, leaving me with not only the first $1000., but also the remaining 20% of the bill. And I'm paying $200. a month for this kind of coverage...I'd almost rather not have insurance. My company picks up 1/3 of our health care coverage costs.

Matt on the other hand, pays $30 a month for health insurance, because he's a smoker. If he didn't smoke, he would pay nothing because his employer picks up the entire cost.

[Lady Sianna]

i don't know how far you've gotten in your research, but this (http://www.iwpr.org/pdf/otc0201.pdf) contains some very interesting information and statistics regarding the use of over-the-counter contraceptives.

i am extremely fortunate to have found a medical office where my birth control pills are free (it's both a western and an alternative health office).

the value of birth control to an increasingly over-populated world?
priceless.

[RiZZ]

Originally posted by slappy
<font color=#ff9900>Wow! That's pretty impressive RiZZ. So that means, if I did my sums correctly, you should be earning a minimum of $27,950 a year, in which case you should be able to afford your own healthcare.</font>

ummm

the only number i said was 1/3


i dont see how that says anything about 27k....

but i may be wrong

[slappy]

<font color=#ff9900>I'm just querying your post RiZZ. We've had many discussions before about how much tax is paid over here in Britland, and that tax in the US is peanuts in comparison, so when you say that you are paying nearly a third of your wages to the taxman, I was rather intruiged as to how this could have happened. So I found out about the tax bands, which contradicts what you said.</font>

[sauron]

slappy == smart

- d.

[RiZZ]

math is gay

[RiZZ]

weeee

[slappy]

<font color=#ff9900>Chill out. You were pissed that you have to pay so much tax, and I am questioning the fact that you are paying that much tax. Two fifths is actually more than one third, so either you are not paying attention and they are screwing you over, or you don't know what the hell you are talking about, or the information that I have is highly suspect. Please enlighten me.</font>

[RiZZ]

your the one attacking my simple post deary

im sorry to have added my comments

[slappy]

<font color=#ff9900>I was questioning. Not attacking. My first comment was tongue in cheek. Sorry if you lost your sense of humour there. You sound as though you have a bug up your ass. But if you would like me to explain how the taxing system works in your own country, I would be happy to draw some diagrams for you.

:P</font>

[RiZZ]

i still wouldnt understand

im far to retarded

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