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MAC
04-30-2001, 01:19 PM
Saturday morning
Me, my wife, my 3 yr old daughter
All get in the truck and ride to town.
8 miles of beautiful country highway.
On the way back my sweet dear daughter
reaches down and grabs her thigh with both hands and says

"this is too big"

<marquee><FONT size="90"><FONT COLOR="red">AAARRRGGGHHH!!!</FONT c></FONT s></marquee>

I feel like this is an innocent observation about relative proportion.
But I need reassurance.
My wife just got the new victoria's secret catalog and there are girls in there
soooooooooooooooooooooooo skinny
its disgusting.

I need to know how to see this coming.
Ladies, tell me what happens to make you feel like you're a fat bloated cow.
When you are actually a gorgeous lady (like my dearest).
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estero
04-30-2001, 01:40 PM
<font color=pink>There is no way to get around this. Does your wife obsess about her weight? If your daughter sees this she is most likely to care about it as well. My entire life I saw my mother eat like a bird and say she needed to lose weight, when in fact she's gorgeous looking and never needed to lose weight.

If yoru daughter watches TV and sees magazine's, there is no way around this issue, I don't think anyway. No matter how many times you tell her she's beautiful, those thoughts will always linger in the back of her mind, in my opinion anyway. I'm not saying that is what she is thinking now because she's so young, but it will happen someday.

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PB
04-30-2001, 02:56 PM
could one of the other kids have said something to her, like at daycare or something? Skinny is a society suggested beauty, they once did a study and made the perfect society perferred woman, she was beautiful, but not many women look that way. In my honest opinion, the reason women are some self conscience about our weight! All i can say men is take a look in the mirror and be sure to grin because this is partly your fault as well. Is your wife skinny Mac? Your daughter could be looking at her as a skinny lady that holds daddy's eye and wants to be thin like mommy so daddy will always adore her as well. ( psychology i know, but i can't think of what the name for it is) How many times do y ou go out looking or whatever... you always notice the cute skinny girl before you notice the normal sized cute girl. It is natural, all men do it. So we as women strive to be more like those that catch your eye so quickly. Is this making any sense? As for a 3 year old saying this Mac, i don't think that you have too much to worry about just yet, she may have heard your wife or someone else she knows say something similar. Or possibly another child ( you would be suprised what kids say to each other as they are so cruel). I can't say anything for the weight issue other than the idea to be perfectly skinny comes from society. I know that I am not fat.... i'm not perfectly skinny ..... i would like to loose weight, and i am... but i am not killing myself to do so. Do you know that the average women is a size 14, and the chunkier you were use to be a sign of beauty.... I think that people put too much importance on it and that we as humans should look more for inner beauty because the outside always fades. How'd ya like that jumbled mess?

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Koliedrus
04-30-2001, 03:12 PM
I have a ten foot pole around here somewhere.

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PB
04-30-2001, 03:29 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
Actually, MAC's wife is perfect physically; by that I mean that she is neither overweight nor underweight for her frame, she's a truly lovely lady, and she's smarter than the average bear...and she's health conscious but not a diet freak (as far as I know)...I point that out merely to illustrate that the issue is deeper than it appears, because MAC's child is definitely NOT learning this in the home either through observation or imitation. Yet it got into her little head somehow....


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Well
if it is not learned, then that is odd for a 3 year old to say that, unless like i said earlier, it came from other children! LEt me think a little longer... because that makes a big difference. If it is a one time occurence, i would try not to worry, but is she says things like this often, look into it quite a bit more!

Good Luck!


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Pianomahnn
04-30-2001, 03:31 PM
There are many things I love about women. And just a few that I hate.

If someone loves you, and you know they do, WHO CARES WHAT YOU LOOK LIKE? Honestly, the people that judge who you are by what you look like, SUCK ASS. They're shallow, and most conversations will last 2 minutes and you will not be happy.

Luckily I've had the good fortune to date women who are quite sexy, yet don't care too much about how they compare to the models in those skanky ass magazines, and the women on hollywood. It's nice.

That could be why I'm single. Around where I live, women are so superficial it is depressing.

Stupid people. I'm drinking water now. Nice, cold water. Hmmmmmmmmmm

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Lady Sianna
05-01-2001, 01:58 AM
definitely societally induced...
indoctrinated from childhood that you have to look a certain way to be appealing to a man...and vice versa, that men have to find certain things attractive.

its something i battled with from teenage-hood...which is ridiculous! ask rogue warrior, i'm a fuckin' hottie! http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif

but i seriously had issues about my body.
as i unfolded, established & discovered my own sense of self, explored real beauty...
well, self-assuredness replaced inhibitions & perception changed.

the most beautiful aspect of womanness are the differences, the subtle nuances of
<u>every</u> woman's body! we are amazing creatures and should not ever have to feel otherwise...death to those that make us do.

(i'll sick rogue warrior on their ass! http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif )

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MuffyTheVampyreLayer
05-01-2001, 03:26 AM
I blame barbie.

Buddha's Penis!
05-01-2001, 05:21 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by MuffyTheVampyreLayer:
I blame barbie.[/quote]

yeah. if you women didn't expect me to look like ken, i would never have had to smooth my crotch with a belt sander.

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Dog Breath
05-01-2001, 04:35 PM
Go figure!
If you look like Barbie men love you.
If you look like Ken men love you.

That's quite a bit of dedication Buddha's Penis.

I honestly prefer chunky women. I have dated skinny women but I am afraid of breaking them. I don't like Tom Boys. I am attracted to girly girls, bitchy is OK because it is so feminine. I am not very attracted to vacuous women. I need someone whom can hold a conversation.
I was born in the 60's when an hourglass figure was ideal. We form our opinions very early. The models now look like concentration camp interns with lots of makeup to hide the sunken eyes and hollow faces.
It is amusing to me that health "experts" are quick to point out the ills of being overweight but completely gloss over the dangers of being too thin. They portray some leotard wearing anorexic with puttied on makeup to hide her transparent skin and front flood lighting to hide the picket fence she calls a rib cage and hip bones that protrude like an Indian OX and tell you this exercise machine will make you healthy just like twiggy. "I was a size 6, now I can fit into a size 4 dress and I am 2 inches shorter now". "My hobbies are dieting and working out, I get lots of exercise while vomiting".

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If it's so sick, why are you laughing?
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PB
05-01-2001, 06:08 PM
That's gross DB! But i have known people that go through it just to be thin. I have a friend right now who was a bigger girl, big frame, big breast, real tall, broad shoulders.. still very attractive, but a larger build than most, and not fat.. she probably weighed about 200 lbs. or so.. not bad for 5"11 and 42DDD / well that was about a year ago.. may not even be that long. Now she is 118 lbs. and wears a size 7 or so... this would be great if she did it in a healthy manner.. But she is like popping 8 metaba something pills a day, when the bottle says not to exceed 4 a day! I am afraid that soon I will have to mourn for yet another friend. I'm not fat, or thin, have a fairly nice build.. but i weigh like 155 lbs. and am only 5'2 , the 38DD don't help much, but i don't think i am fat.. the BF says i am fine just the way i am (he has to say that ), but the fact that i am still uncomfortable with my own body.... i haven't figured out if it is just me.. or if society plays a bigger part in it than i give credit for. I think the term psychosamatic comes to mind! lol

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Dog Breath
05-01-2001, 06:25 PM
Well you sound just fine to me and I DON'T have to say that.

On the other hand your friend doesn't sound appealing at all.

My wife just had weight loss surgery at my dismay. I supported her and went through it with her. She had her reasons, mostly the standard health related ones. I don't know what pressures she is under to lose weight, I just hope I did not contribute.
I was against her having the surgery but I felt she had the right to find her own solution and she did lots of research. I am her husband not her owner.
I am concerned she will get too thin and I will miss those bewbies a lot. I guess we will just have to see.

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Woof.
If it's so sick, why are you laughing?
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