thank you kobe bryant

[MAC]

http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20030722/amdf319196.jpg

http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/07/19/kobe.bryant/

as soon as I succeed I intend to cheat on my beautiful wife with whatever whore is available

http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/LAW/07/19/kobe.bryant/story.kobe.presser.jpg

then I'll just cry and bitch on TV about how sorry I am

[Venus]

This has been all over the radio for a week now. DJ's saying she was too young to be going to his hotel room anyway, he should have stayed away from her. Listeners calling in saying she just wants his money. DJ's fighting back that no girl in their right mind would go through the torment of alledging rape just to get some money.

Here's what I think: If she's too young to be fucking him, she's too young to realize what would happen to her life if she cried rape at him. I think, she consented to sex with him. Freaked out because she wasn't on the pill (or something) and decided she needed the money from him.
Or, she consented to sex until he was almost done, and then decided she didn't want it anymore (which I don't think should really count as rape..), and now he's screwed because the bitch changed her mind a little too late.

[RiZZ]

he should of killed her

[Mudflap]

Since this "news" broke last Friday, I've heard the term "sexual assualt" being tossed about liberally. It wasn't until last nite while listening to some AM radio talk show that I heard the term "rape" being used in reference to Kobe and this hotel chick.

IMO, rape has a much more negative connotation than sexual assualt. Has the popular media been shying away from calling it rape out of some sense of respect for Kobe as a celebrity and sports superstar?

I've only been following this story as close as whatever I hear on the radio or in the background on the TV. I haven't read any article or whatever, so I don't know if my premise about the word "rape" being used infrequently is accurate or not.

What do ya'll think?

[Venus]

Well, rumor has it (this morning's radio) that 3 sorces comfirmed that shortly after filing the report with police, the chick was at some party with friends. One of the guys there asked 'So how big is Koby's dick?' Now, I would think that someone who was sexually assulted, or raped, would take some sort of offense to that, or at least be sensative about it. However, sources say that she got this big smile on her face, and gestered with her hands to show the size.

I think he did a good thing by admitting that he had consentual sex with her. Now the seman the prosecuters wanted to use as evidence is going to be pretty void. They'll have to prove that injuries (if there are any) were inflicted by a struggle during sex. I think they have their work cut out for them. Her "friends" are coming up with some interesting stories about her. Trying to kill herself by ODing because a boyfriend broke up with her and such.

[Barbie]

Remember when Magic had consensual adultury?

hmmmm


How's his wife Cookie? Is she HIV positive yet?

[Barbie]

Kobe Bryant has not led a hard life. He went straight from High school to play with the likes of Shaq. He makes $100M (between game and endorsements) and he has a beautiful young wife. Yet there is just something he’s missing. NOT

Why do some of these young men drive to pursue more. More trouble that is.
Sometimes drugs, sometimes crime, sometimes sex.

He admitted to committing adultery, and that probably helped his case against rape.
(My honest opinion is that Sexual Assault if a far more frightening than Rape is…rape is used too loosely lately)

His wife seems awfully supportive of him. She appears to be.

Did Kobe Bryant rape that girl? I don’t know…that’s something for the judge/jury to decide, but regardless, I would think that a man with $100M would not need more and just keep from putting himself into circumstances like this. If he hadn’t been with that girl…he wouldn’t be in this predicament.

I’m disappointed with him as a person, but he’s still one hell of an athlete.



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[Cruise Director]

He is married.
He committed adultery.
He took the risk of it being called rape when he fucked her.
I don't feel sorry for him a bit, even if he is innocent.

Don't want to be falsely (maybe) accused of rape? Don't put yourself at risk for it.

[Smug Git]

Sometimes people allege rape even when no sex took place. Don't feel sorry for those guys either?

[Cruise Director]

Absolutely I do. If you don't put yourself in a situation where rape can be accused, you have nothing to worry about. People falsely accused of rape do get my sympathies. People who commit adultery do not.

That's also why I have sex in front of no less than three witnesses. Keeps me out of jail. ( Not to mention it's kind of kinky. :D )

[MAC]

ppl have been having adultery since they first pretended to be monogimous (sp?)

but today its ok to do it, admit it, cry about it, get mad at it, and still be rich and famous...or even NOT rich and famous

there's no great earthly penalty.

there's no price to pay that I can compare to any price I've ever paid for doing something that hurt someone I love....of course that price was emotional and felt only by me.

Bill Clinton's life goes on
Kobe will return to the court

And that is how I know that I am the most irrational human on earth.
I would rather be dead than do what they did.

and that is totally irrational...so I guess what I really want to see is something that makes ME believe that they believe they where wrong and are sorry. Something that proves that they are suffering as badly as I do. Something physical to represent the unseen pain.

OJ Simpson must have felt the same way.

[Venus]

Well Cruise, I hope you're on your way to a life of abstonance. Everytime you sleep with someone, you put yourself at risk of being accused of rape. Even if it's your own damn wife.

[Cruise Director]

Abstain? No. Choose my bed partners a little more carefully? Absolutely. I've never been one to hurry up and jump in the sack.

Perhaps a bit old fashioned, I think you should really love someone (and be loved back) before you get in to bed together. It usually takes more than a few days to reach that point for me.

False accusations of rape are bad. Even if they prove to be so in Kobe's situation. My point is that he could have totally avoided the situation by staying true to his wife and therefore gets little sympathy from me for the accusation.

[Venus]

I would never commit adultry. He did, and it's up to him and his wife to decide what to do about it. A friend of mine cheated on her husband. She didn't deserve to have the guy cry rape, and neither does Koby. If he did force her, fine. Throw the book at him. But if not, it is totally between him and his wife, and no one deserves to be accused of something that could ruin their lives.

[Koliedrus]

Family Of Woman Pictured In Kobe Bryant Case Hires Lawyer
Judge Issues Gag Order In Case

POSTED: 10:39 a.m. MDT July 24, 2003
UPDATED: 5:06 p.m. MDT July 24, 2003

EAGLE, Colo. -- The family of a young woman wrongly identified on the Internet as Kobe Bryant's accuser has hired an attorney in hopes of stopping her image from being circulated online.

Most of the media have declined to name the alleged victim, but in the small town of Eagle, nearly everyone knows who she is. Another friend of the woman told reporters that the alleged victim is having second thoughts about reporting the incident to sheriff's deputies, because of how much attention the story is getting.....

And so it is.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2355617/detail.html

[Smug Git]

Adultery is breaking a promise. If you are a christian (particularly if you are a catholic), it is a really big sin (much worse than pre-marital sex, say; note that in this regime, divorce and remarraige is adultery too). Otherwise, just breaking a promise (which I personally think is a big deal, but others may not).

We can't judge, really, the truth of the rape allegation, of course.

[Venus]

Another friend of the woman told reporters that the alleged victim is having second thoughts about reporting the incident to sheriff's deputies, because of how much attention the story is getting.


Well of course the story is getting so much attention! You just accused a very famouse basketball player of sexual assult ya dumb woman!

So things are continuing to come out about the "victim". Apparently she's tried many times to kill herself, overdosing on sleeping pills and the such. I don't know if that hurts her case or not.

Yes, I agree adultry is bad, but it's still between him and his wife.

[MAC]

the best things in life are free (http://www.msnbc.com/news/943488.asp?0cv=SB10&cp1=1)

I bet he votes democrat cause he doesn't want the top 1% to get the tax breaks

but seriously

here's my honest to interpretation:

girl was very interested and possibly fucked-in-the-head which is why she ended up in this situation to begin with

he was interested and touting the typical 'playa' mentality of "if she's that stupid she deserves to be treated like a whore"

he did something that she didn't like but she let it happen...for whatever reason.
(feel free to debate why certain women will allow certain things to be done to them in certain situations despite not liking it...see "groupies")

afterwards, whether physically injured or not, she felt crappy but HEY! she had had sex with a famous guy...so she bragged, but she still felt bad..then a mixture or her conscience and her lack of humility finally drove her to report it.

thats my take. maybe I'm wrong
maybe she HONESTLY believed that he would fall in love with her and leave his wife and she'd be his gf
or that he'd have passionate commensual sex with her that she'd remember forever
or that this was gonna be fun and that she was powerful because she could get a famous man naked and make his eyes roll back in his head
or maybe he jumped her in the hallway and beat her and raped her

no, i'm sticking with #1

[MAC]

I forgot to add something I HEARD on the news that I haven't been able to confirm anywhere

Kobe Bryant Multinational Incorporated

you see, when you make $100M/year you don't get a pay check...

vanessa is senior VP

kobe is a guy who plays basket ball and stands in front of a camera for shoes and video game commercials

kobe bryant multinational Inc. is how he does his best to NOT be ass raped by 70% tax + SS + medicaid + etc

sorta like hotel staff get assraped when they...never mind

she should have incorporated

[Barbie]

Originally posted by Koliedrus
And so it is.

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/2355617/detail.html
names have been named now baby (http://www.thehypertribe.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=8694)

[Smug Git]

Originally posted by MAC
kobe bryant multinational Inc. is how he does his best to NOT be ass raped by 70% tax + SS + medicaid + etc


70%? That is higher than in the republic of Ireland. Are you sure?

[Koliedrus]

I want to meet the person who'll merge C-SPAN and Big Brother so that elected officials get this much attention. Talk about rocking the vote...

You realize, of course that media attention is driven by viewers. We pay attention, they notice and give us more. Their pockets fill and our sense of "entertainment" is met.

We worry and fret about the Orwellian Big Brother while drooling over anything that causes a gland to be stimulated.

I give not one shit about Mr. Bryant, nor his victim/concubine. Their names will be added to my mental "Oh Yeah, That" file and most likely lost as quickly as they were brought to attention.

What intrigues me is the way I see lives being destroyed. Not only have they done it to themselves but we, as interested (perhaps emotionally-starved) viewers add to the spiral's momentum.

To date, not one government on the planet has the ability to stop a tornado.

It's unfortunate that we blindly choose to create storms over subject as trivial as this. But, since we have...

Both parties acted. Both should understand that actions have consequences. And so they have. The tornado has touched down.

[MAC]

ok, smug caught me getting riled up.

Here’s some tax facts:

the self employment tax rate is 15.3% on the first $84,000 adjusted gross non farm income. Its a combination of 12.4% SS and 2.9% medicaid paid by self employed ppl.
if you made MORE than 84,900 adjusted gross nonfarm income then you pay the 2.9% medicaid and add $10,527.60 to the result. (please note that if you make $100,000 this results in roughly a 13.5% tax for SS and medicaid)

(Kobe @ $100,000,000 in 2002 would have paid $2,910,527.60 in self employment taxes had he NOT been incorporated)

our tax brackets are
10%, 15%, 25%, 28%, 33%, 35% (over $311,950)

(so Kobe SHOULD have paid $35,000,000 in income tax to the fed)

Please note that us employed ppl pay Social Security and Medicaid separately. The 2.9% should be right but our SS can be 7%, 10%, 15%, or 27%. Your employer is required by law to match that (he's self employeed) so he pays 14% total...

BTW: does kobe live in cali?

Then he pays 9.3% top bracket state income tax

That’s $9,300,000

They also pay:
Unemployment insurance (5.4% top bracket)
Employment training tax 0.1%
State disability Insurance 0.9%

That’s another $6,400,000

That’s all the time I have to look up personal taxes…so I’m sure I missed some.

But by my estimates he would have paid over $53,000,000 in taxes last year

That’s 53%.
You see that if he’d paid 27% social security (I’ve never heard of anyone paying that) instead of the self employment tax he’d have paid over 75% but that’s why he’s incorporated.
(My boss insists that his self employment tax is over 30%...I wonder if his wife counts as self employeed?)

for perspective, plan on paying your bills next month with 1/2 of what you get paid per hour....cause once you're used to that they can take it.

(sorry I didn't have more time to look for better numbers all this info came from google searches to payroll companies, SS admin, california state tax website, and 2002 IRS adobe documents)

[Smug Git]

27% social security seems a bit steep, I must say.

Mind you, I guess that no rich guys actually pay that much, or there wouldn't be anything like as much incentive to earn those big bucks, and the US has a lot of people who are driven to earn them, for sure.

[Koliedrus]

Now (http://www.yourinnervoice.com/Sounds/KobeSosaRamsey.mp3) it's getting interesting :D

[SimpleSimon]

Fortunately for everyone, backward sound analysis is viewed by the courts as a little lower than voodoo in terms of credibility..

[Venus]

Yeah, but it had a great song behind it!