Then I got Pissed

[Mae]

I work at a job with other people my age. Does not often happen to me as I generally do not go and seek out a summer job, summer job being composed of a younger work force than say office work or drywall. Simon suggested this one, and it has been good for me to get the stick out of my ass. But I have run into a problem, (welcome back stick!) I do not condone off task employees. Someone that I recommended for a promotion has been wasting company time. I feel a little responsible. Now, I had planned to take him aside and explain that he gets paid to work and not update his blog. I would like to point out that he is on a level with me as far as job title goes. However, two things have happened. First he has been a rude dick to me. This attitude makes me want to harm him; as in viciously report this- I do not have unending goodwill. Second, I went to look at what he posted so that I could speak to him about the content. I believe that some of what I read is confidential company information and therefore will not provide a link. (something he could get fired for) Then I read further. The little jerk is talking about me.

Sam= his girlfriend
Andrew= some guy


“Mae got upset with me, after I had dropped them off at her car, because I talked to Andrew the whole time. I say, shut the heck up. I hadn't seen Andrew in forever and Samantha knew it, so she didn't mind if we talked. Besides, they seemed to be enjoying their conversations just as much as we were ours. Samantha told me she was fine with the fact that I wanted to talk to my friend, whom I hadn't seen in weeks and I could tell she wasn't lying or anything like that. Mae needs to not be such a perfectionist as far as relationships are concerned. I treat Samantha with the respect and love she deserves. Actually, I don't, because Samantha deserves a love that no one but Jesus can give to her, but I give it my best effort anyway. Samantha's so precious to me and I love her very much. Also, I think Mae needs to butt out of our relationship. Just because Mae lives in the same house as Samantha, doesn't mean that Mae has a right into Samantha's business. If I'm not doing my job as a boyfriend, Samantha can make that decision and deal with it as she sees fit. Samantha's more than capable of taking care of herself. I'm not too fond of Mae, but I guess I'd better keep a level head with her. I wouldn't want to have an awkward time at base. She's not too bad most of the time. She just gets a little strange sometimes. Especially when it comes to God. She got really defensive when I played Norma Jean in the car and explained what it was. She's an atheist, which sucks because, she's not going to Heaven, but what can you do. I guess the only real thing to do is set an example through living like Christ. Maybe Samantha will rub off on her.
Anyway, I'm done venting. I love being able to vent through writing. This way, I get out what I need to get out and no one has to listen if they don't want to. But, if they do want to hear it, they can read it! Man, I feel much better. Except for the fact that I'm way tired. I think I'm going to hunt down some water now”


So, what really bothers me is that I looked at this thing, and saw his perception of me. Honest, true bother here. Screw him; I could care less about his relationship and such. Sam asks me what I think and I tell her. Too bad. I will admit that him writing about me on company time – or just writing about me period – makes me uncomfortable. So the question of the day is, Does my boss get an anonymous e-mail with a link to his page? Or Do I first point out that his writing on company time is a bad idea, and encourage him to stop?

[SimpleSimon]

To get friends, you be one. To get a brown nose, you be a snitch.

[Mae]

Grrr, not what I wantd to hear. I don't want to play nice. Really though, I want to hear that you are right, I want people to back you up because I'd hate to be the one to set in motion him getting fired. Nasty little shit. Thanks Uncle.

BTW- Antone else that wades through this deserves a medal.

[Billyman]

Leave him be.

At no point in his rant did he once say "THAT FUCKING BITCH.....!"

lots of people use a little company time for play.

All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.

[Venus]

I'd have to agree. In that somewhere he mentioned he was talking to his friend while you and his girlfriend were talking? In the writing he made it sound like you were upset that he was talking to his friend instead of his girlfriend. If that's the case, and it was on company time (otherwise what's the big deal?), then you're just as guilty as he is. No one actually works their full 8 hours. Weither it's time spent chatting with a co-worker, on a personal phone call, or writing something on a website. Your boss knows this as well as you do.

By the way, where do you work? I mean, what kind of environment is it that his girlfriend and friend can just come and talk to him?

[sauron]

Mae,

It occurs to me, that there's a few things going on here..

First off, you're bothered by him doing non-work-related things while at work - which is a fair enough point.

However, many people do non-work-related things while at work - case in point, I am currently writing you this reply, 30 minutes before I get off work - people do it, and studies have shown that employee efficiency goes down once management tightens down on what an employee can do while at work, because employees end up taking long lunches/leaving early/etc - to run errands/do things they could have done in a few minutes from work.

Secondly, you're annoyed/upset by the fact that he writes about you.. Is it really the fact that he's writing about you that bothers you, or is it the fact that he's writing about you in public?

Here it is, for all the world to see, the perception that this guy has of you - would it be any different if he was writing in a journal at home, that only he read?

(For those who're unfamiliar with blogs (http://www.the-infinite.org/blog/) - they're online journals, which are generally open to the public (Some, such as Kayla's old blog, are restricted access, IIRC)

Maybe it's the perception he has of you, that bothers you, Mae? - You said yourself: So, what really bothers me is that I looked at this thing, and saw his perception of me. Honest, true bother here. Screw him; - so, it bothers you that he thinks of you the way he does - and yet, you don't care... But on some level you still do care, you said it yourself..

Hmm, this is all things you know, me thinks.

I think my advice is - it seems that you and Samantha were having a good conversation while him and Andrew were having a conversation of their own.. So why did it upset you that he spoke with Andrew instead of you (or, instead of Samantha)?

Figure out the answers to my (implied) questions, and you'll figure out the rest yourself...

- d.

P.S> I waded through it - what's my prize?

[Mae]

Major misconception here.
I went out with him and his girlfriend after work and he had a great time talking to his friend. No problem here, I did not expect him to entertain me. He asked me if I thought that he was being rude by talking all night to his guy friend, I said that I thought that he was ignoring Sam. No judging and he freakin asked me. Hence him wanting to butt outta his relationship.


I have a problem with him wasting company time (significant amounts- eg. sleeping, surfing and the like) and I have a problem with the fact that there is sensitive company info on his blog for his friends who read the thing to use. Yes they could use the info to gain enterance or just to seriously screw with the works.

Dom, what I said is the truth, it does bother me that he has this screwed (from my point of view) perception. It also bothers me that he is doing this in public where the circle that I move in can read it. It would be so different if he did this in his own personal journal at home instead he places it online.
I cannot focus on his perception of me, not nice and not fair of me to do it.
At any rate, I told him that he needed to clear his site history from the computer and told him the he needed to not write company info into his blog and that he needed to not write from work any more. I also implied that he "was probably doing this on his break", not company time and that there were other computers that he should use for that. I was nice and didn't bite.


Holy Crud. If you waded through this you get a prize, to claim, P.M. me with your requirements. I will try to comply. Simon, Two next time for you. I gotta come up with better bribes.

[Escape Artist]

i'm still waiting on the first prize, let alone the second one i get now. :(

[Mae]

You get no prize. You failed to wade. What other prize is that dear?

[Escape Artist]

I didn't fail to wade; I failed to announce the fact. :p

I get two prizes. :fuckj00:

[Koliedrus]

Uh oh. My avatar is talking to me. Put this on your left shoulder.

You did good by getting him a job. He returned the favor by causing others to take up his slack while he wrote you into enemyland. Clearly a bad-doody-no-no.

Here again, I'm using the "What Would Kol Do" formula. It's not always good advice.

Start a blog of your own. In a way, you already have. Let an admin know if you want the comments extracted or begin a fresh one wherever you prefer.

With your preferred restrictions in place, publish that link so that people close to you can get first-hand info. Since THT is an open board, that won't work here unless you're hoping that your thread will simply shuffle itself down into the realms of the unread.

Print a particularly interesting portion of his blog. Include timestamps if available. Leave it on his desk.

You could always freeze a can of shaving cream, poke a hole in the can and hide it in his car.

Like I said, not always good advice.

(Edit: For my "wading" prize, I want you to have satisfaction in whatever form you prefer. Or, as we say it 'round these parts:

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[Mae]

Uhhhh.... I don't speak that. I could wade through and find the part of that page to translate for me but I don't have time. I will later though. I like the shaving cream idea, but he drives Mommy's convertable, or Daddy's SUV. My satisfaction lies in the fact that Mr. holy- er than thou is not, really. Petty yes, but I never claimed to be anything else. Thanks guys.

[SimpleSimon]

Posted at 11:18 am - I assume you are reading the Tribe and posting on YOUR lunch hour?

[Koliedrus]

Welcome.

Tabasco on his chair. Give it a few hours to dry. No smell. Ass-sweat does the rest.

Confession is gonna be a real bitch this decade.

[Koliedrus]

Originally posted by SimpleSimon
Posted at 11:18 am - I assume you are reading the Tribe and posting on YOUR lunch hour?

Lunch hour.

She's off the clock.

Do it regularly, Mae.

[Venus]

If he's doing it on break, what difference does it make which computer he uses? I agree with asking him to not write about company stuff that could get him or anyone else in trouble, but it is his ass. Were you able to time his use of this computer to be sure he was using an extensive amount of company time? I use company time to read and post here. I spend about 15-20 minutes a day doing it. But notice I can get a lot done in that time. If I go over that time, I can do some of my work while reading the board aswell. Unless you've watched him post, you really have no grounds to say he's "wasting" company time.

Edit: I'm seeing that something happened in your personal lives, and you're bringing it to work. That my dear, is a big no no!

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

Hmm... I post here all the time when I'm supposed to be working. Of course, I set my own hours and am only responsible to myself - does that mean I'm misusing company time?

/me fires herself.

I'm really very incompetent.

[Mae]

To get this straight. I watched him as he finished posting. He was on the clock and not on his break. He was wasting company time and being negligent as well (sp) His job is kinda to make sure that no one gets killed. He, at the time, was not capable of listening to all the channels of radio traffic and recording everything.
Also, I was not even at work this morning. Break fine, lunch, do what you like, please though, do not waste huge amounts of company time. Thankyou.

This did not go to work by the way, he and I setteled it the next day before work. Pardon my spelling.

[Escape Artist]

where's my prize, dammit? :mad:

[squee]

Hah! Office drama.

Since you broadcast a request for opinions, here's mine:
You're all immature and you need to grow up.
The problem you noted with this guy's work ethic is a smokescreen and probably has more to do with the fact that you don't like one another.

Allow me to outline the fucked position you've gotten yourself into, Mae...
There is no way the problem will be "resolved" without a shitload more drama in your life.
From this point forward you HAVE to ignore it and hope that it never surfaces, especially if you're in a position to HAVE to do something about it...because you've waited this long, it isn't an issue about doing your "duty" anymore. You let that go while you debated being nice vs. being a bitch instead of just doing your job; had you reported it straightaway you would have avoided most of this mess.

Lessons learned.

Including, it's usually a bad idea to get involved socially with anyone you work with unless you have the kind of job that places a distinct barrier between on the job and off.
My boss is "Chief" when I'm working and "Kevin" when we're lifting weights or downing beers. Rigid rules actually provide me with a luxury your types (civilians) don't seem to be able to enjoy without fucking it up...sorry.

edit: opinion stands, but glad to see you got it worked out outside of work!

[MAC]

thank you squee.

I'm glad it wasn't me that had to say that.

[Koliedrus]

/me drops his face into his hands

I was hoping for stories about shaving cream an tabasco sauce.

You BLEW it, man. Just fucking BLEW it.

[Billyman]

Originally posted by squee
*snip*

Dude.

Your best post like ever.

*two thumbs up*

[Mae]

I blew nothing. I told him the various things that I could do to his car and person. He smiled a weak smile and suggested that we could do it to someone else's car?


evil laugh

[Koliedrus]

What's the current status of the workplace relationship?

[Mae]

I told him that he was screwing off and that I really disliked his work ethic. He admitted that his ethic was a little lax. I told him that although I couldn't stand him as a person without his girlfriend as a buffer, there was no reason that we couldn't treat one another with some measure of decency. We are fine now. One of those agree to hate each other and move on things.

Ugh, too much Drama. And this from me, little miss *singsong princess voice* - Oh. whatever will I do? He thinks I'm mean, ooohh.-

[Koliedrus]

Keep the "newness" in mind. In time, you and he might even conspire to get me those shaving-cream/tabasco-sauce stories. I already feel sorry for the future newb.

Wait. That's hazing. AH! And this is evidence!

[disturbed]

i may be slightly confused, but you live with Sam the GF ?

[Mae]

Yep. The Co-Worker comes over and is therefore unavoidable. His girlfriend, Sam also works under us at work. This is a truly screwy situation. I am looking for a job that has less teens and fewer friends and house mates. Mission- 90% accomplished. At least we have peace for now.


Hazing... Who me?

[Mae]

Texas heat is wonderful for the "grumpy old men " fish stunt. Toss it in his vehicle and forget about it. Not to mention nair in his hair gel (Vain boy) or cooking oil on his driver's seat. Too many to count.

[disturbed]

living with someone you work over is trouble waiting to happen.