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Billyman
05-30-2003, 06:11 PM
The vast majority of auto technicians all over America are paid on a commission basis. We get paid for the hours we turn out from the start of the pay period to the ending (weekly). Some of the lucky ones get salary plus commission. If these people turn fewer hours than an X amount, they have a guaranteed salary. If they turn more hours than the minimum, it opens a whole new can of worms and they are paid as if on straight commission.

My situation is somewhere in between and a little different all the same. I’m on straight commission with a twist. If there are not enough jobs to generate my minimum hours, I get salary based on X amount of hours. Now that is ONLY if there isn’t enough work to be done. If there’s plenty of work to be done but for whatever reason I still didn’t generate my minimum, I can only take what I turned that week.

Since I do 90% of all the performance and fabrication work and there is no such a thing as “book time” to refer to for such, I have to keep up with the amount of time spent on a job to be paid accordingly. Now since one cannot generate as many hours by this method as going by “book time” on regular production work, the hourly pay rate is increased to offset the shorted hours per week.

Lately, things have been a bit slow for every shop in town. If fact, we’ve been the busiest shop in town and still haven’t had a whole lot going on. We’ve been steady, but not busy, just enough going on for me to stay slightly above my minimum.

Well this week, things have really been crawling. Lots of standing around, shooting the shit, cleaning this or that just to past the time. Every morning of Fridays, our service manager gathers up all the information that’s been logged throughout the week of who did what and their hours. He prints out each technician’s information and hands us the paper to keep with our own records (and to show us what we’ve done and open discussion or disputes about hours or things that my have been missed). Well everybody’s hours sucked this week, it was expected, we all knew, but no biggie to me (so I thought).

I told Larry (the service manager) that I should be getting by minimum so it’s no big deal. He said he’d have to see Jeff (the owner/boss, and whom I’ve the agreement with) since that was between Jeff and myself and something he has no control over. I just said; “k”.

I got my paycheck and there was no minimum, just the hours pulled for that week. I went to Larry and asked; “He said no huh?” He told me that was what Jeff said and he was apologetic about it but there wasn’t anything he could do. I told him of course not, don’t sweat it, it’s out of your hand and I know how to handle it.

It was time to go to lunch at this point and I told Larry I wouldn’t be back after lunch, I’d probably see him Monday. He said he understood and was apologetic again. And again, I told him that I wasn’t mad or pissed and anyone, especially not him, He told me to have a good weekend and I replied; “you too, but before I go, there’s something I’ve got to do”. He and Chris (a friend and co-worker) just looked at me as I walked into the office. I came out with a dictionary. Chris asked me what I was doing and Larry had a puzzled look on his face. Just about that time, Jeff came walking through the shop so I stopped him and handed him the dictionary. He too looked at me puzzled and asked what it was for.

My reply?

“I want you to look up two words, ‘honor’ and ‘agreement’, once you have understood what each means, put them together, use it in a sentence if you will so you can understand what I’m saying when I tell you ‘fuck you’. I’ll see you when you figure all that out”.

Chris looked at me grinning and said; “You’ve got the biggest balls of anyone I’ve ever met, respect dude, respect”.

I smiled, threw out a “laterz guys”, and left.

Maybe this is T-dome material.

Escape Artist
05-30-2003, 11:05 PM
Bad circumstances, good reaction.

J00 continue to rock, bro. :)

MAC
05-30-2003, 11:49 PM
Today I spoke to the head-employee in-charge at the hardware store
this is the only guy in the store who can do everything but who isn't a manager or some shit. In short, he's the competent one.
He and I had been talking about a few things aroudn there and he told me today that he'd finished his research and laid it out fo rth boss.
He took him a list and dropped it on his desk
boss: what's this?
tim: its the 84 employees you've hired and fired in 2 years. My dad told me that if you find the same problem in everyone you meet the problem is in you. You can fix this problem or add my name to that list.

Tim is now in charge of all hiring and firing.

As for me, I took a ride with my boss yesterday to Tyler. Half way there he divulged that he wanted me to see how the guys at the small engine shop had fixed the lawnmower I told him I didn't know how to fix so he'd leave me alone about the POS.
I replyed with "how long would you have paid me to fuck with that lawnmower to figure out what they knew?"

Then this morning the boss needed a headlight bulb replaced.
Matt, the idiot redneck I insisted get fired whom the boss still uses for every odd job he can think of because he is so incredibly cheap, walked up and grabbed the new bulb as I dismantled the airbox to install it.(2002 excursion) The boss entered the scene a few seconds later saw the greasy finger prints on the sodium bulb and lectured me on NOT touching them. I got REALLY pissed and explained that "I know how to handle a fucking lightbulb"
When Matt, the dipshit redneck, had left I called the boss back outside and explained to him who had been playing finger-the-bulb.
He said "oh..."

Everytime that boy shows up it causes me pain.
Always has always will. I could kill him, but then who would I make fun of?

there is no "honor" at my job
thats the "agreement"

Billyman
05-31-2003, 12:04 AM
Originally posted by MAC
...I got REALLY pissed and explained that "I know how to handle a fucking lightbulb"
When Matt, the dipshit redneck, had left I called the boss back outside and explained to him who had been playing finger-the-bulb.
He said "oh..."

That's one difference between you and I. I wouldn't have waited for "dipshit" to leave and then talk to the boss about what had taken place to clear my good name. I would have made "dipshit" out to be a dipshit right in front of dipshit and the boss.

When it comes to stupidity and bullshit and dealing with bosses, I don't fuck around. Bullshit is bullshit and I'll call it on anybody including the boss.

But that's just me.

MAC
05-31-2003, 05:22 AM
and that IS the difference between us

the dipshit is a dipshit
he doesn't care

the greedy lazy bastard I work for uses him based on that and doesn't care what I think unless it costs him a $$

there is nothing I can do to the dipshit except kill him
and he lives his life firmly believing I am the dipshit

you see, there is no truth where no one wants it.

I should add that my boss never, ever, ever, ever speaks or writes an agreement

ever

there is no "honor" where I am

Koliedrus
05-31-2003, 11:46 AM
At present I get 4 weeks of vacation per year. Last year, I took 3 of them and carried over the fourth into January of this year.

My first two vacations of this year were taken early because of things like the Seattle trip. The second two, I took together in May as I always do.

When the check for the fourth vacation didn't show up, I was told that there must be some mistake and was offered a pay advance which I accepted. Two weeks later, still no vacation check.

"We're fighting with the payroll department. Their information matches ours but they won't issue the check until a report of carried-over vacations is published sometime in mid-June."

Fortunately, I work with people who live in the real world. They would rather report a weekly loss equalling my advance until the right thing is done than have my family fall a week behind.

Big Wheels took notice, were informed of the situation and now the spotlight is on Payroll Processing's operational procedures. I'm short about $100 but I'll recoup that as well as a good chunk of satisfaction.

We have an agreement (legal contract). Sometimes honor must be forced.

Nice shot, Billyman!

Billyman
06-01-2003, 04:03 AM
Chris called me today to tell me that Larry was pissed over the whole ordeal (remember I left at lunch so I didn't get any of the conversation that took place in the afternoon). Turns out Larry gave the boss (Jeff) a speech about agreements and following through with what is right and wrong.

Larry has been a blessing to Jeff thus far. Larry was hired to take over certain areas so Jeff could do whatever he wanted and not have to act as service manager (which he cannot stand to do). Larry told Jeff that if he continued with his shit, he’s gone and that was that. Chris (who has also been a blessing…smart mofo, well experienced, someone else we’ve needed for a long time) has already said he’s tired of the bullshit, selling his house and moving back to Jersey (in fact he is). Jeff knows I’ll leave in a heart beat and have no problems finding other work.

From what I understand, it all gave Jeff a lot to think about.

In short, if he keeps it up, it’ll be him and Kevin (a fucktard that he can’t stand to begin with).

I’ll see what shit hath hitteth the fan Monday.

Koliedrus
06-01-2003, 04:56 AM
I know you don't see this as a game. Sometimes when I think ahead, people get that impression.

As I see it, you have between (timestamp) and Monday morning to decide on the ingredient you'll add to the soup.

You're pissed. Bleed that off like air in a brake line.

Mudflap
06-01-2003, 05:17 AM
Its an all too common scenario in my experience. Hiring managers with control over compensation packages will promise very attractive deals to recruit good help, but its their nature to limit actual compensation as much as they can get away with. Many accept the high turnover that often happens as a result and just chalk it up to employee greed. They have a uniquely twisted perspective. Tis very weird.

MAC
06-01-2003, 05:24 AM
kol, its funny you should use that metaphor

someone has to hold the brake down while you get under the car

there's trust in that

Venus
06-01-2003, 06:53 AM
I haven't had a bullshit problem at work since about January. Wich is good. When you have a job you hate anyway, bullshit makes it unbareable. Unfortunatly, whereas I've been trying since about January, I have yet to find another job.

Koliedrus
06-01-2003, 07:43 AM
Focus on the memory cue, Billy. Joke later. Think now. Look for it.

It's right in front of you.

Billyman
06-01-2003, 10:21 PM
There's nothing to focus on and I've been joking about it after the moment it happened.

Everyone assumes one has to be pissed to do something like that. I didn't like what happened but never got mad over it. I went about it the way I did (and always have done) 1)Because I'm a smartass. 2)I can be really big dick just for the sake of it. 3)I am not intimidated by authority figures. 4)To open up a discussion.

By walking away afterwards, this gives him a chance to go through all his emotions then has time to dwell on the cause and effect.

It's basically a "chew on this".

My parents will tell you I did similar stuff to them even when I was kid.

Venus
06-02-2003, 03:53 AM
Not being afraid of authority figures is ok as long as you can find other work right away. I wanted so badly to tell my boss to fuck off last January when she got pissed at me for using the wrong paper that she didn't even tell me we had. However, I knew work was hard to find at the time, still is, so I couldn't do that just yet. There's been many times I've wanted to tell them all to fuck off, but it's a matter of I have to have work to support my daughter. If I tell them to go fuck themselves, I don't have that work. It's all a game. I'm slowly learning to play it. And in learning to play the game, things have gone better for me at work. Such as the raise I just got. If you have the ability to get a new job right away, and you know it, you have the ball in your court. More power to ya. When I have a new job lined up, I'll politely tell the bank to fuck off.

Billyman
06-02-2003, 04:13 AM
Understand that I love the work I do. I like the place that I do that work.

No matter where we go, there will always be bullshit we have to put up with. Going from one job to another only means you have to learn new bullshit. Where I'm at, I know what bullshit to expect the moment I wake up to get ready for the day. I also know what I can get away with, my value, and what can and cannot be changed.

But I do have a luxury. I do not fear having no job. It's 12:11 AM right now, I could call my boss right now and quit, take the day off to gather my things and be working again Tuesday morning only to start learning new bullshit to put up with.

My place of business, my boss, and co-workers aren't unbareable to work with. We just hit bumps just like we always have.

Any place of employment is like driving in the foot hills...

A lot of ups and downs.

Mudflap
06-02-2003, 05:32 AM
Yeah yeah. But in the next five years, cars will become obsolete (replaced by jet-packs and Jetsons-style air-cars) and then you'll be fucked! ha ha.

Koliedrus
06-02-2003, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Koliedrus
Focus on the memory cue, Billy. Joke later. Think now. Look for it.

It's right in front of you.

The Pez dispenser is out of place.

Oooga booga. Zing!

(I love this shit.)