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Uberwonder
04-25-2001, 07:01 PM
Don't yell at me, I get depressed when people do that.

PB
04-25-2001, 08:20 PM
moving the thread?

Rogue i think you would expect me to answer if you are...

Inky..
Alot of what you say sounds familiar..
I am manic depressive, just found that out recently, i knew i had been depressed for the past 4 years, but once they started talking about manic, i realized that it had been so much more than just the past 4 years. I also suffer from an Anxiety disorder, which is by no means any fun, and usually the meds they use will help the anxiety and hurt the depression.. or vice versa.. or just make you numb to where you do not care for either one. Since you have a family history have you talked to a dr. about it, you may have said that and i missed it somewhere.... but i may have some really good advice for you in the depression aspect, as right now i am in the manic stage and not the depressive.. if i were in the depressive.. it probably wouldn't be so great.. let me know if you want more!

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Inky
04-25-2001, 10:36 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Psychotic _ Bitch:
... i may have some really good advice for you in the depression aspect...let me know if you want more!

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please feel free to share anything you want, I often think people who suffer have better ideas than the therapists who don't. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif



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Rabble Rouser
04-25-2001, 10:49 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Inky:


please feel free to share anything you want, I often think people who suffer have better ideas than the therapists who don't. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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That's the primary reason that I think I'd be an excellent therapist...because I can truly relate to what people are experiencing. I've been through a lot in my life, and have suffered through a lot more than most people my age. I can not just speak from textbooks and journals, but from experience. Experience is the best teacher.



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Pianomahnn
04-25-2001, 10:52 PM
Truthfully, I feel I have the exact opposite of depression.

I'm chronically happy. No matter what happens, I am usually smiling. Usually enjoying life. I don't know why. It's the way I am. For as long as I can remember, I've been happy.

I always wish I could give some of it away to those who don't have as much as I do. Because it's something beautiful.

I don't understand that much about depression. I've always felt that if a few more GOOD things happened to the depressed person, then things would change. Perhaps I am very wrong on this idea. Perhaps not. I would really love to understand. I'm all ahout edumacation.

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Rabble Rouser
04-25-2001, 11:01 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Pianomahnn:
Truthfully, I feel I have the exact opposite of depression.

I'm chronically happy. No matter what happens, I am usually smiling. Usually enjoying life. I don't know why. It's the way I am. For as long as I can remember, I've been happy.

I always wish I could give some of it away to those who don't have as much as I do. Because it's something beautiful.

I don't understand that much about depression. I've always felt that if a few more GOOD things happened to the depressed person, then things would change. Perhaps I am very wrong on this idea. Perhaps not. I would really love to understand. I'm all ahout edumacation.

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Cherish that...there are many people who will never know the treasure that has been bestowed upon you.

I agree with you on the point that if more good things happened to depressed people, they'd be happier. I know that a primary cause of my depression is that despite my best efforts, everything I attempt is a failure. I have the worst luck of just about everybody I know. Everyone claims to have some kind of "natural talent" that will help get them through life. I don't. Nothing's more depressing than fighting and struggling and seeing nothing come of it, while others don't do a damn thing and get everything they want.



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PB
04-26-2001, 12:08 AM
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please feel free to share anything you want, I often think people who suffer have better ideas than the therapists who don't. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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Well i did study it as well. Was a forensic psychology major in college, so i know the medical aspect and the personal aspect, believe me i fight it on a daily basis. I think that depression is a state of mind, and with some people it is just their minds. I think that most people who suffer from depression bring it upon themselves. Some people just want the dark personality that goes along with depression because it presents itself to be "frightening" or just different. Most people who truely are depressed will hide for as long as they can. They do not deal with things, not just because they can't but because they choose not to. There for no pity self inflicted injury because it is something they have caused themself. But i also have to look in the mirror when i say this. Also most people who suffer from this, particularly manic and things of that nature have a very different personality, are free thinkers.. someone who can't turn it off even when they want too... and understands things that most people do not. But don't let it fool you because it is a battle, and one i will fight the rest of my life!




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Pianomahnn
04-26-2001, 02:29 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Rabble Rouser:
snip..snip..snap..snopp..sbithyc...
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Yeah, but you're sexy. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/tongue.gif

IMHO

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Koliedrus
04-26-2001, 12:53 PM
I'm no expert. I do understand, though.

My chunk of thought will be in Inky's thread in Lessons.

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estero
04-26-2001, 02:50 PM
<font color=pink>Psychotic, one of my dear friends suffers from manic depression. I know what he goes through and there have been many nights when he has called me at 4am to talk to him when he's "getting sick."

I know how difficult it is and just wanted to tell you that I really admire anyone who suffers from this condition. You guys are a strong bunch.

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Koliedrus
04-26-2001, 03:21 PM
We thank you for your support http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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PB
04-26-2001, 08:02 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Kaye:
<font color=pink>Psychotic, one of my dear friends suffers from manic depression. I know what he goes through and there have been many nights when he has called me at 4am to talk to him when he's "getting sick."

I know how difficult it is and just wanted to tell you that I really admire anyone who suffers from this condition. You guys are a strong bunch.

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Thanks... most people think it is something that goes away, but it doesn't it is always there just lurking around waiting for a trigger, and if one doesn't come, it just triggers itself. Makes for a very hectic lifestyle sometimes. Most people do not know this aspect of my life, and the ones that do try to act like they don't, sometimes walk on egg shells around me. i hate that.. it doesn't make me strange ( well not most the times) to me depression is yourself multiplied. You may not quite understand that... but manic.. it like a light bulb being compared to the sun! The light you can turn it off and leave it off, the sun only goes away for a while, it always comes back, and even when it isn't present, you still think about the next sunrise. you can't turn it off in your mind.. and sometimes it is frightening.. and most people don't understand, not that they can't, they just do not want to. Lord knows that i wish that i didn't. But thanks for the kind words, i am thinking maybe i should move over to inky;s post in lessons. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif



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Minimaul
04-26-2001, 10:31 PM
People get all pissy when I say I'm a loser. And I get all made because I am . And they think it's some sort of a 'act' .But it's not , I really am a loser.


How are you a loser ? - You ask. Easy , I lose. When I try , I lose and fail miserably. I try and do all this stuff , say for instance me playing Unreal Tournament : I play a lot , and I lose a lot more. I play in ladders , and shit like that. I've never won a match. It gets/is depressing.

Snowboarding: I've never won a contest , ..No wait , that's a lie. I won one contest. In my opinion , I shouldn't have. I didn't land anything , and I have shitty style (In my opinon style is everything , in snowboarding).

Skateboarding: I've done contests for years skating . Nope , never won one.


Life : Well , here I am . My expectations are too high , and everything is a big let down. Assuming I have kids I'm not going to lie to them . I'm going to tell them how I wish it was told to me :

" Get your shit together and get it done. Don't be a lazy fuck. Lazy fucks arn't rich and famous. *smack* Get your ass of the couch and go do something! Eat YOUR FUCKING VEGETABLES! *smack* *thwap* *crash* If you say you want to be or do something, DO IT! You little fuck! *smack* Now go be something! *kick* "


Work : I'm lazy . I hate customers , and I hope they all die. I'm rude , I slack. And I'm late daily. I'm just waiting till I get fired. Then I will get evicted. Yay! Customers hate me , employes hate me.


Friends: *shrugs* I hate every girl in Alaska. Not like they're better anywhere else. But they still suck ass. And not mine. I have two friends , that I conisder more then good friends. One works 10 hours a day 6 day's a week. The other works 5 day's a week , and sleeps or plays PS2. We only talk through ICQ , or they call me sometimes when they are getting drunk. One is leaving in a few months , the other... I don't know what he's doing.

School: Went. Never going back.


I guess what I'm partialy trying to say is - That I'm sick of being second best. Or just average. All my life I've been told ' you can be anything you want to be' . No you can't. That's blasphemy. Rich get richer , and the poor stay poor. That's the unaviodable 'destiny' of our society. Some "freedom" isn't it?

In conclussion ; Fuck you all . I am a loser. Because I lose. And have lost. And will always lose.




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Minimaul
04-26-2001, 10:50 PM
No , really ... I lose.

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Deadpool
04-26-2001, 11:12 PM
Its up to you to take the effort to change things. At least you have the confidence to get out and take a challenge. Doesn't that count for anything?
I didnt realize manic deperssion was so common. For those that suffer from this condition, what can people do to help you cope?

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Minimaul
04-26-2001, 11:16 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Deadpool:
Its up to you to take the effort to change things. At least you have the confidence to get out and take a challenge. Doesn't that count for anything?
I didnt realize manic deperssion was so common. For those that suffer from this condition, what can people do to help you cope?

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Blow jobs , drugs , women and money.

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Rabble Rouser
04-26-2001, 11:58 PM
*gives Mini a hug*

I know how you feel. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/frown.gif

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FallenAngel
04-27-2001, 02:59 AM
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My answer is here: Reply!!! (http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000042.html)

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PB
04-28-2001, 01:09 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Deadpool:
I didnt realize manic deperssion was so common. For those that suffer from this condition, what can people do to help you cope?

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Well first off you have a dr. that tells you to see a shrink! A good shrink can help you because they are subjective about things, and give an opinion. Of course they also try to play mind tricks on you to get you to say something (believe me i studied to be one) They also try all these drugs like Zoloft, Prozac, Serzone, lithium, and wellbutrin... they are SSRI (selective seritonin replicate inhibitors)i think that's right* but alot of the times, if these drugs don't help, some doctors do CAT scans and things of this nature to search for an obstruction in the brain. They say some brain tumors have symptoms similar to manic depression (not sure if this is true or not) when nothing works at all they recommend is to keep with the psychiatrist, and keep trying different drugs. to try and even out the chemicals in your brain. It's more common that you would think, and is inherited in several cases, but can come from no where like me. Several dr. will just put you on some pills that make you just not care. Which to me is stupid because manic dep. makes you feels so emotionally numb anyways... but there are time where in a "episode" (time period when the depressive side is present or the manic side for long periods of time some of the time there is a period where things seem "normal" ) where i would rather just not care that i was depressed. But this is generally the way they handle the situation... the best treatment is the psychiatry aspect if you can find a good one, which usually takes a while.


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