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squee
04-11-2001, 12:03 AM
Hey out there in TV Land...

Just in case anyone's been wondering about me (hah), here's a little update as to how my hearing and whatnot has been going.

I went to XOI (Executive Officer's Inquiry) today, which is the intermediate step in the Navy's system of nonjudicial punishment (ie, everything that doesn't go to a court-martial). Everyone else who was involved in the incident had his charges dismissed because frankly they weren't involved. I got my charge of "failure to report" dropped but I'm still stuck with "contributing to the delinquency of a minor."

Basically it comes down to this: even though I had the best of intentions--keeping people from doing stupid stuff when they were drinking--and even though I didn't provide any minors with alcohol, I still facilitated by allowing them to drink near me. I talked to the Command Master Chief (the top enlisted person on base) and he says that the lesson I need to take away is that allowing something to happen on your watch, as it were, is no different from causing it to happen, in the Navy's eyes. He says he wouldn't have acted any differently from me in general, but he would have acted to prevent his own liability, something he says I will learn with experience.

Well, live & learn. I go to Captain's Mast tomorrow, where I will get my NJP handed to me. This could go as far as: reduction in rank; restriction for 45 days, concurrent with 45 days of hard duty; and loss of half my wages for two months. However, nobody I talked to thinks I will get anything more than 15 days restriction and 6 month's probation.

Anyone have any thoughts? Keep in mind I won't be able to read them for anywhere from two to six weeks http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

disturbed
04-11-2001, 12:35 AM
how do you like the navy? there is a friend of mine that wants to join buy i am trying to talk her out of it so she can move to Texas with me.

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squee
04-11-2001, 04:16 PM
The Navy is what you make of it. I will say right now that 90% of the people in it joined for the wrong reasons--they want college money and signing bonuses and they just don't care about their shipmates or their country. Most of the Sailors I know are just civilians wearing a costume. Most of them don't want to ever go out to sea or even leave the country. Half the time you get rewarded for doing your job, and half the time you get shit on. However, I understand that this is prevalent in all the branches of the service, with perhaps the exception of the Marines. They still seem pretty squared-away to me.

Anyway if your friend is going in I really don't have any advice for her. It's a great way to get ahead in life but if that's all she cares about I don't want her in my Navy http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Deadpool
04-11-2001, 09:10 PM
Aye, if you are joining the military for money, fame, you are joining for the wrong reasons. You do it because you love your country and and you do it beacuse you want to be the best.

Goatboy
04-24-2001, 07:10 PM
<FONT SIZE=2 COLOR="#ff0000">Amusing how your punishment isn't all that far off the punishment for sinking a Japanese fishing vessel and killing all aboard.
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Time Slipping
04-25-2001, 11:22 AM
<FONT COLOR="TimeSlipping">Shit happens. You can't help it. No one can. The Navy just likes to think it can, so it assumes everyone else can do the same. Foolishness. No righteousness will come of this.</FONT c>

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