Jumping The Shark

[Koliedrus]

Linkage (http://www.jumptheshark.com/about.htm) for reference.

Sometimes you just screw up your career by being yourself.


http://i.cnn.net/cnn/2003/SHOWBIZ/Music/03/14/dixie.chicks.apology/story.dixie.chicks.ap.jpg


Dixie Chicks singer apologizes for Bush comment
At London concert, Maines said band was ashamed of him

NEW YORK (CNN) --Dixie Chicks lead singer Natalie Maines was singing a new tune late Friday, this time in the form of an apology to President Bush for saying she was ashamed that he was from Texas.

"As a concerned American citizen, I apologize to President Bush because my remark was disrespectful. I feel that whoever holds that office should be treated with the utmost respect," Maines said in her latest statement.

Her comments deriding the president this week have sparked outrage among some country music fans, with some stations boycotting the Grammy-winning group's songs. In a poll on Atlanta, Georgia's KICKS 101.5, 76 percent of its listeners responded with "If I could, I'd take my CDs back."

Maines issued a statement earlier that fell short of offering an apology. In her latest statement, even as the lead singer extended an olive branch, she expressed reservations about a war with Iraq.

"We are currently in Europe and witnessing a huge anti-American sentiment as a result of the perceived rush to war. While war may remain a viable option, as a mother, I just want to see every possible alternative exhausted before children and American soldiers' lives are lost. I love my country. I am a proud American," Maines said.

In a concert in London, England, this week, Maines told the crowd: "Just so you know, we're ashamed the president of the United States is from Texas."

The group hails from Texas.

The Dixie Chicks kick off a three-month U.S. tour May 1 in Greenville, South Carolina.

[Billyman]

Backpedaling.

Stand up and shout what you mean, stand behind it, or keep your mouth shut.

[Mudflap]

I was scanning thru the radio dial yesterday and I heard this on a country station:

This is where we would normally play a Dixie Chicks song, but we support our President and our country. God bless America.

Then they played that pro-war country tune that came out recently. I chuckled.

[simiantics]

Her comments deriding the president this week have sparked outrage among some country music fans, with some stations boycotting the Grammy-winning group's songs. In a poll on Atlanta, Georgia's KICKS 101.5, 76 percent of its listeners responded with "If I could, I'd take my CDs back."

I don't subscribe to many of the philosophies of the musicians that I listen to, but I can still appreciate their message, regardless of our differing views. If I had an all time favourite song, and the band that played it came out and said in an interview, "Fuck Kris Feenstra [that's me], he's an asshole, and his beliefs are pure ignorance." I will still love that song. Why not? How can the song mean less? How can all that I took away from it be taken back?

[jules]

I wouldn't have apologized.

She said what she meant rather than what she knew would please people. Admirable, if anything.

The world would be an incredibly fucking boring place if we all held the exact same opinion on every subject or were too afraid to voice what we really thought.

[simiantics]

It looks like they only made the statement to please the Brits in the first place (I'd gladly be wrong there). You can't expect famous people and politicians to mean what they say, or other wise their publicity agents would explode.

They probably could have also maintained record sales through a different niche had they burned Bush in effigy, but I think that's considered some form of treason or something.

[Koliedrus]

I'd love to hear it, Kris. Hell, I'd even pay you for the priv!

Thing is, was the song something that makes you think they jumped a shark?

Point to some lyrics if you can.


(edit: made some corrections once it settled in.)

[simiantics]

Wait, what song?

[Koliedrus]

My bad. I misread. I thought you had one in mind.

It does seem to be all about image, pockets and wallets.

[Jenny]

I read in the Beatles Anthology where John said they "were more popular than Jesus" and everyone built bonfires of Beatle albums, especially in the South. Good for him. Goddamn kids listening to that devil's music, singeing the hair off their arms is too good for them. They should have been flogged. Well, I never.

Now Natalie Maines says something bad about GW and the same thing happens. Shows you how touchy people are these days. GW up there on the same scale as Jesus.

Wait til their relatives start coming home in body-bags. (Even though I agree that Saddam should be killed, the cost to the US in international reputation and terrorism is going to be horrible. Sonny can't build a coilition of 41 nations like his old man could, so he's going to go ridin' in there whoopin' and hollerin' like a John Wayne movie.)

John apologized, too. So did Jane Fonda. Who cares? They spoke out, and yet they were just entertainment figures. Who knew they could think?

S'cuze me, I need to go make some Freedom toast.

[ms. bing]

freedom toast.
now thats just damn funny.
as for the dixie chicks, im sure theyre crying and lamenting all the way to the bank while they self-flagellate with their many grammys.
the station i listen to here in town is still playing them, although i would have been happy if they had quit.
whats shameful is how those girls butchered the meter of "landslide".

[Venus]

Originally posted by ms. bing

whats shameful is how those girls butchered the meter of "landslide".

Now given, I've hated the Dixie Chicks from the get go...but I second that statement with all I have.

[Billyman]

I don't listen to country music but some of the folks around here that do said that the Dixie Chicks are being yanked left and right from there stations. Some have said that the radio stations producers themselves have come on the air and made the announcement that the Chicks would no longer be played at their station/stations.

There are several things to look at here.

1) She spoke her mind, she may have been honest about it, dunno, she may have just been trying to gain brownie points in Britain. I feel she was being honest. She had said in the past she would rather live (with her children) in France rather than America.

2) She’s in the public eye, a representative of America (something about those roots), should she have kept her mouth shut? Sure she should have, go ask her about it now.

3) Is she wrong for saying what she said? Nope, let it all hang out but prepare to suffer the consequences. She’s seeing those now.

4) “I’m sorry”…”I apologize”. Sure you are and of coarse you would. How’s those record sales? That money just being dragged to your doorstep now?

See, I don’t care what she said, or the reason’s behind it. The thing that irks me about this and other celebrities/musicians is that they speak their minds freely, and they speak about something they know little about. They take half the story and run with it. It’s impossible to get all the facts but invest your time reviewing as much information on both sides of the fence before opening your big fat mouth.

[MrsKol]

I like their song, "Bye Bye Earl" at least I think that the name of it.

Since they were in Europe, I'd say they got caught up in the anti-American sentiments, and she probably blurted it out without much thinking about. If they were here in the USA, she probably wouldn't have said anything.

[Cruise Director]

Originally posted by MrsKol
I like their song, "Bye Bye Earl" at least I think that the name of it.



The video is somewhat comical, too. They basically knock of some guy named Earl and get rid of the body. I saw some arguement somewhere on the television dial that if "the video had been of men doing the same actions to a female the country would be up in arms."

I can't wait until PC is no longer in style.

[Koliedrus]

I miss my Amiga.

Oh wait. That was cryptic again.

BAD Kol! :mad:

In reference to:

Originally posted by Cruise Director


I can't wait until PC is no longer in style.

[Koliedrus]

NBC dumps Peter Arnett (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/article/ds10819.html)

Last seen contemplating ice skates as dental tools.

http://www.harrywalker.com/photos/Arnett_Peter.jpg

[Koliedrus]

*Time Passes*

Ok. Someone straighten me out here. Is she going to apologize by delivering flowers to the White House while kneeling in broken glass or not?!

http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15780

Either way, sorry. It's over.

[Koliedrus]

Is it me or is her right eye doing a Marty Feldman?

Nice smile, though. If I weren't happily married...


:hitit:

[mute]

It's a band, of three chicks, from Texas.

W h a t ' s t h e b i g f u c k i n g d e a l?

I probably see about 5 different perspectives a day, and you don't see them getting trashed for it? Fuck Hollywood and all the drama it creates. FUCK IT ALL TO HELL, if there was one.
UH OH, I just said something that involves opinion! DAMN ME! DAMN ME TO.... :\

Now lets all calm down and go see that new Lizzy Mcguire movie! :mad:

I can't wait until PC is no longer in style.

What's that stand for? Personal Computer?

[Escape Artist]

BAD KOL! You say 1,000 Hail EA's or you're going straight to hell.

[Koliedrus]

Originally posted by Escape Artist
BAD KOL! You say 1,000 Hail EA's or you're going straight to hell.

Ha! Something (http://www.thehypertribe.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=8180) tells me your influence might not be all that helpful.

Mojo, don't sweat it. Sometimes people go down when they speak up. (hmmm... :laugh: )

Think of it as a spin-off of dead celebrities with a twist. And don't tell me that you don't grin in some part of yourself when famous people are caught eating foot.

Ok. I'll grant you that it's often blown out of proportion. Perhaps it's even French-Revolution-ish, with peasants getting their jollies by watching royalty lose their heads. Martha Stewart, anyone?

I'm just wondering, "next?"

[Koliedrus]

Rotate and orbit...

"Fuck you! I'll take you down with my bare hands!", is losing popularity. Finally, I hope.

At some point, sophisticated creatures realize that cooperation is key.

Parents, stop forgetting what it was like.

Nations, likewise. Although I shouldn't have to point that out. I suppose that the major problem is that much history is (and is being) lost.

Tell me something.

Why have I brought this here?
http://launch.yahoo.com/musicvideos/player/default.asp?videoID=1088385

Honestly, I have no clue but it seems to fit... somehow...

[morgana]

<font color="lime">i'm not defending the dixie chicks, but when you start receiving death threats and hate mail the way that they did, you would be doing an about face for your family's safety as well. they didn't react irrationally- every redneck in the country did, and they had to apologize profusely to ensure that some psycho wasn't going to attack them or their kids while on tour.</font>

[Koliedrus]

Mother of cruise ship 'brat' accused of making terrorist threats would refuse to post bail
Associated Press

Published May 3, 2003



LOS ANGELES - The mother of a 20-year-old woman accused of making a terrorist threat aboard a cruise ship said she wouldn't post bail for a ``brat'' even if a judge had granted it.

``She is going to have to stay in jail and learn her lesson,'' Debra Ferguson told the Los Angeles Times. ``This was a big, big problem, and if she has to sit in jail - oh well. She's going to have to deal with it.''

Kelley Marie Ferguson, 20, remained jailed without bail Saturday at a federal detention center in Honolulu, according to Officer Lewis Gardner.

The cruise ship Legend of the Seas had been en route from Ensenada, Mexico, when it was diverted April 23 to Honolulu after two threatening notes were found. The notes prompted an FBI search for biological, chemical, radiological and explosive weapons, as well as interrogations of 2,400 crew members and passengers.

Kelley Ferguson, vacationing with her family aboard the ship, was accused of planting the notes so the trip would be cut short and she could get home to her boyfriend. She was charged with two counts of threatening acts of terrorism, and could face as much as 10 years in prison on each charge.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Kevin Chang on Thursday ordered her held without bail.

Her mother said she wouldn't post bail anyway and wasn't going to ``risk the rest of my family's life because of a brat.''

``She's going to run ... and we're going to be left with a $25,000 debt,'' Debra Ferguson said. ``She promises not to do it again - but yeah, right.''

The young woman's boyfriend, John Brashear, has said she's not a terrorist.

``She's not this kind of person,'' he said. ``To think of her doing something like this is outrageous.''

Prosecutors said they plan to send the charges to a grand jury next week.



Either she's acting her age (albeit, as a princess-wannabe) or Mr. Brashear sports Magnum sized condoms.

Will she lie low?

We should place odds on this stuff.