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SimpleSimon
02-16-2003, 09:04 PM
This man is fairly obviously a whacko, to use the technical term.

Equally obviously, he is being charged with and prosecuted under Missouri law for the FELONY of speaking his mind.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20030211/ap_on_fe_st/jesus_lawyer

<center>Man Tells Judge He Wants Jesus As Lawyer</center>


GAINESVILLE, Mo. - A southwest Missouri man can have Jesus Christ as his attorney, but only one licensed to practice Missouri law will be allowed to speak for him during trial on charges he tampered with a judge.

Defendant Richard John Adams, who described himself as a patriot and a Christian, told the Ozark County judge presiding over his case that under that ruling, he was "being restricted to the devil."

Adams, of Branson, said he refers to lawyers as "devils" because he believes the Missouri Bar Association "created the Federal Reserve (news - web sites) through their unconstitutional statutes and case laws."

Adams formerly associated himself with a militia and Christian Identity movement but has since said he's not a member of any group.

Adams is scheduled to stand trial March 19-20 on two counts of tampering involving Ozark County Associate Circuit Judge John Jacobs of Gainesville.

Adams, whose age was not available, requested Jesus Christ as his trial attorney during a hearing Wednesday. He listed "Christian brother" Lee Constance of Alton as co-counsel. Constance is not licensed to practice law in Missouri.

Ozark County Circuit Judge John Moody told Adams it was fine for Jesus Christ to be his chief counsel, but no one — including Constance — could speak for him in the courtroom unless a lawful attorney.

Adams replied that his choice of lawyers was "religious in nature."

Moody offered to let Adams sign a waiver of counsel, but Adams objected to the language in the document and declined.

Adams said he planned to appeal the decision.

The case began when Adams was ticketed March 24 in Howell County for speeding and failing to wear a seat belt.

Both charges have since been dropped. But the two felony counts of tampering stem from those proceedings, during which Adams requested a change of venue to Ozark County.

One count alleges Adams harassed Jacobs during a July 3 hearing by filing a letter in a court file saying he would sue the judge because he was incompetent.

His allegation implies Jacobs needed "a guardian to make his decisions for him and to the effect that he is unable by reason of any physical or mental condition to receive and evaluate information or to communicate decisions," prosecutor Thomas Cline said in court records.

The second count alleges Adams tampered with a judicial officer on Aug. 13 by threatening to sue Jacobs for violating his civil rights. Adams was ordered removed from the court after he became antagonistic over Jacobs' ruling, according to records.

Cline said Monday that he could not comment on the case prior to trial.

In court records, Cline said the statement was intended to threaten Jacob because a suit would require the judge "to incur expenses of retaining counsel and providing a defense."

Adams faces a maximum of 14 years in prison if convicted of both counts.




What it boils down to is this - a man is stopped for speeding and charged with misdemeanor counts of speeding and failure to wear a seat belt. At the hearing he told the judge, in writing, that he (the judge) was incompetent, and that he (the defendant) would sue him. This is "tampering with a judicial officer"?

At a subsequent hearing he again threatened to sue the same judge for violating his civil rights.

The prosecutors justification in each count is sophistry at it's finest:

" One count alleges Adams harassed Jacobs during a July 3 hearing by filing a letter in a court file saying he would sue the judge because he was incompetent.


His allegation implies Jacobs needed "a guardian to make his decisions for him and to the effect that he is unable by reason of any physical or mental condition to receive and evaluate information or to communicate decisions," prosecutor Thomas Cline said in court records. "

" The second count alleges Adams tampered with a judicial officer on Aug. 13 by threatening to sue Jacobs for violating his civil rights. Adams was ordered removed from the court after he became antagonistic over Jacobs' ruling, according to records. ".............

In court records, Cline said the statement was intended to threaten Jacob because a suit would require the judge "to incur expenses of retaining counsel and providing a defense."




A whacko he may clearly be, but he was right - the judge did violate his civil rights.

So judges are above the remedies provided in the courts? Next they will ask the fed's to designate him an "enemy combatant", I suppose.

Billyman
02-16-2003, 10:27 PM
Heh, I read about this the other day. But let's review "wacho" for a moment.

Maybe he isn't such. Just maybe he's smart enough to minuplate the justice system just because he knows where the cracks are.

For instance;

A few years ago I read about a case of a guy was on death row. His time had come to be put to death. I don't remember which state it was but they had to give him a choice of how to die. The choices where only suppose to be that of the electric chair, lethal injection or the gas chamber. Ultimately, he decided on being stoned to death. This wasn't an option but because of formalities, knowing where those cracks were, he knew he could buy himself at least a another year or so. If I remember correctly, he did this in '93, in '97 he was still alive and well. I have no idea what the outcome was but I bet all the paper work just got pushed farther and farther back as time went by.

Hygiliak
02-17-2003, 09:44 PM
Maybe he is a wacko! or maybe he's that smart but either way this is one more example of the system of courts and laws in this country.

Billyman
02-17-2003, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by Hygiliak
Maybe he is a wacko! or maybe he's that smart but either way this is one more example of the system of courts and laws in this country.

Ding ding ding ding!

We have a winner!

Bingo! and all that shit. ;)

3MTA3
03-06-2003, 07:38 PM
Whoa, whoa, whoa...how the fuck did a Judge violate this cocksuckers civil rights again?? You do know that in the courtroom a judge can do whatever the fuck he wants right?? You do know that threatening a judge with a lawsuit at your criminal hearing is tantamount to threatening to hurt him?? Its attempting to influence the judges ruling...not cool...this guy can send the Judge a letter at another time or deliver it in another place but hes a fucking douchebag...and I hope they throw the book at his stupid ass...his civil rights have not been violated, he is a crazy white supremacist who beats the bible and has too many conspiracy theories in his tiny head...dont fucking applaud this asshole...hes doing nothing but acting the fool.

SimpleSimon
03-07-2003, 06:40 PM
Do you EVER read what is posted, or do you just go off based on the summary in the first couple of paragraphs?

If you had read the article quoted you should have noted he did in fact first act by sending a letter alleging intent to bring action against the judge. Out of that letter arose the first felony charge of tampering with a judicial officer.

In other words, in his view the judge acted improperly, and he gave notice of intent to bring action because of that. The county prosecutor acted upon that letter by filing a felony charge against him, pursuant to which the judge gave the letter to the prosecutors office.

Basically, the judge is saying that he is immune to repercussions for his (possibly) improper action on the bench. Our responsible judiciary at it's finest.

3MTA3
03-10-2003, 08:17 PM
YOU=GAY

blow me faggot. haha...

SimpleSimon
03-10-2003, 08:27 PM
Originally posted by 3MTA3
YOU=GAY

blow me faggot. haha...

Hardly.

Even if I were, I don't have a strong enough magnifying glass to find your needledick, or a small enough straw to do you any good.

3MTA3
03-12-2003, 01:27 AM
What it boils down to is this - a man is stopped for speeding and charged with misdemeanor counts of speeding and failure to wear a seat belt. At the hearing he told the judge, in writing, that he (the judge) was incompetent, and that he (the defendant) would sue him. This is "tampering with a judicial officer"?

Yes idiot, it is!! Its making threats...and I hope the judge held him in contempt for that shit too...throw the fucking key away...

Oh, asshead...you suck. :)

Mae
03-12-2003, 01:30 AM
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