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Barbie
02-14-2003, 07:27 PM
14 'human shields' deploy across Iraq
Last Updated Fri, 14 Feb 2003 12:30:18
KITCHENER, ONT. - The first group of volunteer "human shields" from Western countries began to deploy across Iraq Thursday.

http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2003/02/14/human_shield030214

INDEPTH: Canadians go to Baghdad as 'human shields'

The group of 14 people, including at least one Canadian, will take up posts at institutions such as hospitals and water treatment plants in an attempt to deter the U.S. from launching a war against Iraq.
Several more Canadians are preparing to go to Iraq as human shields.

"The purpose of going there is just to say to the people there and to the world that these lives have value, that these lives are every bit as important as ours," said Stuart Vriesinga, who is preparing to travel to Iraq later this month.

Vriesinga said he's worried about going to Iraq during a war, but said he has to go.

"If I decided that my life was more important than that message, then spiritually, I'd already be dead," he said.

Vriesinga said he's going to talk to Iraqi people, to listen to their stories and bring them back to Canada.

Jim Loney, another member of Vreisinga's Christian peace group, recently returned from Iraq.

Loney and the other members of Christian Peacemaker Teams don't like the term "human shield." They prefer to be called witnesses.

"A human being cannot be a shield to a bomb. That is not effective. I think the intention is to say that we, as Christians, as people of conscience, we do not agree with this war," said Loney.

But whether as shields or witnesses, some wonder what purpose these people will serve by being in Iraq during a war.

"People are just going to be seen as concerned more about buildings than they are concerned about people," said Neil Aria with Physicians for Global Survival.

"They may be seen as supporters of Saddam Hussein. So, I think it's a double-edged sword," he said.

In January, George Weber of Chesley, Ont., a member of the same group, died in a highway accident outside the southern Iraqi city of Basra.
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Human sheilds? Do they really think that THIS is going to deter an attack on Iraq?

If innocent children dont' deter them, what makes them think that this is?

S.U.I.C.I.D.E.

Cruise Director
02-15-2003, 07:11 AM
Look at what being a martyr got John Walker. Did they not see what a war hero he became in the eyes of the attacking forces?

dub
02-16-2003, 09:31 AM
No one is created equal in the world of politics.

They wouldnt think twice about bombing a village full of iraqi children,
but you better bet your ass they would reconsider bombing a city
with canadians in it.

At very least they would give it a second thought before they pulled
the trigger.

And that, my friends, is fucking disgusting

Uberwonder
02-16-2003, 03:51 PM
I seriously doubt that these people are going to slow down anything.
If I had a target in my sights that had some fool trying to make a point by standing in front of it.... Boom.
They could better serve their cause by staying out of the line of fire and dealing with the politicians that are making the decisions that stepping in front of a smart bomb that could care less about their cause.

zim
02-16-2003, 09:20 PM
Sigh.

Mudflap
02-16-2003, 09:39 PM
Colateral damage.

Stevo
02-16-2003, 10:01 PM
what american soldier is gonna give a flying rat's ass about some humanist canadian? they want to kill. Canadians are probably a good trophy of war.

Asmodeus
02-17-2003, 01:18 AM
Is this what Christianity has become? Self imposed martyrdom? I guess there aren't anymore crusades for them to fight except to die in a just cause.

Hmmm, I always thought being a good Christian, thus a good and decent person, was providing for your family, going to work, doing your job, living a quiet but stable life and being the example that actions speak louder than words.

But this??? These actions speak. Yesir they do. They say that the US and Canada needs to restart the draft. Draft all the Jesus wannabees and send them to the front lines in a Muslim country with no weapons(it would deter from their demur nature) but with a big flag instead, "We love Jews." and "Muslims are the true infidels. and "Mohammad sucked dick."

ARG!!!!!!!!!

Koliedrus
02-17-2003, 02:00 AM
Wait a sec, Asmo. You're implying that American = Christian. I'm using Stevo's post and yours together, for reference.

Let's not pick nits here. Most of the world is seeing this tension as Allah vs "The West". Anyone who is not of the Islamic faith, in many many instances, has been categorized as "enemy". In essence, I've been lumped into that group.

Hopefully, you've seen the protests. Individuals making a difference. The stereotype is on life support.

Governments are currently in the process of deciding the fate of the world. Those governments really are influenced by the voices of the people they govern but most simply choose to remain silent. Herd animals.

Now, the sheep need to learn the difference between wolves and border collies. Fanatical governments on one side and religious zeal on the other makes it difficult to distiguish wolf from sheppard.

This:
"They destroyed the idols of America... They rubbed America's nose in the dirt and wiped its pride in the mud. They destroyed the Twin Towers of New York and with that the legend of America, the superpower."

finds me with horns growing from my head. Be they the horns of a ram or horns of a demon, I'll not sit placidly while my herd is slaughtered.

"It is the utmost duty to fight the enemy that sabotages the world. The only way to deal a decisive blow in the conflict with the enemy is through killing and fighting."

So be it.

Asmodeus
02-18-2003, 01:35 AM
Agreed Kol, but that still doesn't explain, nor even justify, the human shield BS.

quote:
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"It is the utmost duty to fight the enemy that sabotages the world. The only way to deal a decisive blow in the conflict with the enemy is through killing and fighting."
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How true this is. But sheeple don't understand it. Can't we all just get along? Doesn't work or even apply anymore. If it ever did.

Barbie
02-18-2003, 01:50 AM
Human nature is animalistic

this war and reason's for it are bullshit

Hygiliak
02-18-2003, 03:25 AM
*snip* What american soldier is going to give a flyin rats ass about some humanist canadian? they want to kill. *snip*

You are an idiot!!!!!!!

Koliedrus
02-18-2003, 02:31 PM
Take a look at where I got those quotes.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030216/wl_nm/attack_binladen_dc_4

This street runs two ways.