MAC
04-15-2001, 05:07 PM
Okay I know a bit about plumbing.
But the toilet debate is pissing me off.
In days of yor toilets used from 5 to 6 gallons of waters per flush.
Most toilets also used 3" cast pipe.
Flushing necessitated this water due to these pipes and septic systems.
However, most people did not abuse toilets as they now do. Flushing unmentionables.
Also there were not as many toilet users as there are now.
With the advent of easily extrudable plastics, PVC came be the draining standard.
Cheaper, lighter, easier to work with.
The only down side is it can be crushed and may burst when frozen.
Now the standard is 4" PVC.
Greater area, greater venting capacity, less water to flush.
So they reduced the capacity of toilets to around 1-1/2 gallons.
25% of what used to be used.
Then the media tells us its for water conservation.
Bullshit.
Agriculture uses 70% of the world's nonfrozen fresh water. It goes back into the ground and has to reenter the natural aquafers before we can use it again.
BTW cotton (cheap clothes) and rice (cheap filler in crappy food) use most of it.
Industry uses 20% of it despite the fact that new manufacturing methods have drastically reduced the need for it.
So us in-side shitters are left useing 10% after we drink it, water our lawns and fill up our swimming pools.
Now the problem with toilets occurs.
Three years ago I built the building I work in. I plumbed it. We bought quality 1.5 gal/flush toilets. We plumbed in 4" PVC with enough drop to the tanks, proper venting and sufficient water pressure.
Two years later they flush completely nearly every time.
Hell they suck up terds like a blackhole.
My old house had been replumbed by what appears to have been a troup of Orangutans. Despite the brand new toilet and plumbing you had to break the terd up with a stick and flush four times.
My dad's house was built in the 40's.
It has cast pipes and an old 5 gal toilet.
I had to replumb the field line for the septic tank and it flushes just fine every time.
My new house was built in 1950.
It has 3" cast iron pipes, ancient steel vents and 5 gal toilets.
I flush 2 or 3 times every time I crap.
10-15 gal per terd.
The problem is the system not the amount of water.
If its plumbed properly either system works well.
Lets take a flushing pole and see how much water is used by Tribals everyday.
please convert Liters to gals (x4.23)
Oh yah! For all those of you who wrap the toilet paper around their hand 25 times and try to flush that fucking wad of tree down the commode ther will be a 3 flush penalty.
And you won't be allowed to shit in my house.
Tell me about your plumbing problems.
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But the toilet debate is pissing me off.
In days of yor toilets used from 5 to 6 gallons of waters per flush.
Most toilets also used 3" cast pipe.
Flushing necessitated this water due to these pipes and septic systems.
However, most people did not abuse toilets as they now do. Flushing unmentionables.
Also there were not as many toilet users as there are now.
With the advent of easily extrudable plastics, PVC came be the draining standard.
Cheaper, lighter, easier to work with.
The only down side is it can be crushed and may burst when frozen.
Now the standard is 4" PVC.
Greater area, greater venting capacity, less water to flush.
So they reduced the capacity of toilets to around 1-1/2 gallons.
25% of what used to be used.
Then the media tells us its for water conservation.
Bullshit.
Agriculture uses 70% of the world's nonfrozen fresh water. It goes back into the ground and has to reenter the natural aquafers before we can use it again.
BTW cotton (cheap clothes) and rice (cheap filler in crappy food) use most of it.
Industry uses 20% of it despite the fact that new manufacturing methods have drastically reduced the need for it.
So us in-side shitters are left useing 10% after we drink it, water our lawns and fill up our swimming pools.
Now the problem with toilets occurs.
Three years ago I built the building I work in. I plumbed it. We bought quality 1.5 gal/flush toilets. We plumbed in 4" PVC with enough drop to the tanks, proper venting and sufficient water pressure.
Two years later they flush completely nearly every time.
Hell they suck up terds like a blackhole.
My old house had been replumbed by what appears to have been a troup of Orangutans. Despite the brand new toilet and plumbing you had to break the terd up with a stick and flush four times.
My dad's house was built in the 40's.
It has cast pipes and an old 5 gal toilet.
I had to replumb the field line for the septic tank and it flushes just fine every time.
My new house was built in 1950.
It has 3" cast iron pipes, ancient steel vents and 5 gal toilets.
I flush 2 or 3 times every time I crap.
10-15 gal per terd.
The problem is the system not the amount of water.
If its plumbed properly either system works well.
Lets take a flushing pole and see how much water is used by Tribals everyday.
please convert Liters to gals (x4.23)
Oh yah! For all those of you who wrap the toilet paper around their hand 25 times and try to flush that fucking wad of tree down the commode ther will be a 3 flush penalty.
And you won't be allowed to shit in my house.
Tell me about your plumbing problems.
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Don't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.
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