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zim
11-12-2002, 12:48 PM
Is it the governments job to enact laws to promote social change?

Was justwatching CNN, and some womens group has aparently realized that there is a golf club somewhere in america to which many corporate executives are members. They have a policy of not accepting women, and as a result this womens group is crying foul and discrimination.

My understanding of the clubs response is "we know we're discriminating against women, we're a private club, and have a right to discriminate."

Sounds similar to the boy scouts anti-homosexual policy.

Is it the governments job to enact laws to make this illegal? Or is it the peoples job to promote social change.

The womens group says its wrong for corporate ceo's to discriminate against half of their customers. If you want to look at it that way, fine. It is wrong. Certainly sounds heinous and wrong to me. But whose job is it to fix it? The customers who are being discriminated could have an old fasioned boycott and enact social change through pressure... or they could have their lawmakers do it.

Which is the way that this should be done. Should the government be involved, or should the people do something about it?

3MTA3
11-12-2002, 08:32 PM
The govt. has no legal right to interfere in the private affairs/policy of the Augusta Golf Club...thats like the feds mandating a store return policy for all retail outlets...its just not their place to dictate these rules...

As for the specific club, the woman have a right to be upset and to protest and boycott and in general make a big fuss about it in an attempt to get the 'rule' changed...the club has a right to continue to persue its own self interests...both sides are right here, both are behaving lawfully and in a sane fashion, I dont think the women will win because they dont really have any power to unite a significant group along the sex line any longer...this isnt sufferage or nothing, but still, I like to see the fight.

So yeah, this is a duty that, if anyone accepts it, falls on private shoulders.

Koliedrus
11-12-2002, 09:06 PM
Just fucking great :mad: .

I suppose Boy Scouts are next, then tree-houses and forts built in the woods.

INVASION!

If I weren't bald I'd spend my day off at a hairdresser's with a six-pack and a bag of pretzles just to prove a point.

Fuck it. I need a shave!

Billyman
11-12-2002, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by ZiM
*snipage*

But whose job is it to fix it?

There is nothing to fix. There is only a problem to the women who want to get into the club (and can't) and all the womens rights activist who just look for something to bitch about.

I see no difference in this "elite" club and an all girl college. When I was a senior in high school, for shits and giggles, I applied to an all girl college. Hey, I met all the criteria, GPA (check), extra curricular activities (check), looked good in a mini skirt (check)hehe. Only fault was I had a dick. They wouldn't let me in simply because of my genitalia. Can you believe that shit? :rolleyes:

These women bitching, moaning, and complaining about this club have nothing better to do.

MuffyTheVampyreLayer
11-14-2002, 01:27 AM
Ideally, the govt's job should be to enact laws in RESPONSE to social change... however, in some cases individuals or corporations etc can't be bothered listening to the rest of society, in which case the govt may step in and tell them what to do. Private clubs are a bit of an anomoly, govt dosn't like anomolies - wherever there is a right to do X, you can guarantee there is an equitable principle over riding that right. Equity is a bitch, but it comes in handy sometimes. Basically, if the govt dosn't like you, they can screw you, regardless of what the current legislation says.