Damn... are women that bad?

[PB]

Everyday it seems like people are talking about something some chick did...

The men that I have met recently, generally have the same attitude about it...

I can't even be my normal sweet self with out geting this glare like they are waiting for me to transform into some evil monster... I don't get it..

I will say that I generally don't get along with most women, I think they do alot of stupid shit... but being a woman.. i have to kind of play the female role as well.... but man.... why does every woman think it is her "right" to be a bitch all the time?

I don't think I'll ever understand it... but I tell you what/... I seem to be having to pay for whatever bitch was before me.. or it's like nothing I say can be taken seriously if it's nice or sweet... I just get this look or hear the words... "yeah.... right.."

So.. damn... are women really that bad? need to start a school on how to teach them to be women again and not raging bitches all the time!!! (Yes I say them, because this would not include me).

But it also kind of adds in another subject here.... why do we punish people in the future for things that the people in the past have done to us?


And no this is not a thread to start a WAR between the guys and gals of the group... but as a female.. all i have to say is WTF????

V.

[Escape Artist]

I'm walking out the door, so I'll summarize: no trust.

[zim]

and ill add to that.

no REASON TO trust.

[Billyman]

To answer your question PB....yes, they are.

Not all of them, but the vast majority just plain are.

Men are dogs. All of them? Nope, but the vast majoritiy just plain are.

Takes one bad apple to spoil a bunch shit. Not neccassarily true in every case but still, because of the "rap" men and women alike have, we are in constant battle to prove what we are, what we aren't, what we stand for, what we don't. In the midst of proving ourselves we find that we (men) are in fact dogs and you (woman) are that bad. That still doesn't apply to everyone but for the vast majority it hold all too true. Sad but true even.

The weird thing is, we love each other regardless. We just look past the bullshit. We all accept there isn't anything "perfect". (or at least should) Besides, in reality, we don't really want that. We all need drama.

[MAC]

*theMAC looks at PB*

yeah.

right...

as an attractive adult female of my species you have the potential to be devastating to me

my defenses go up immediately

now my question:

if so many of YOU women aren't "like that"

then why do so many os US men learn this shit the hardway?

our daddy's never told us to distrust women, they just smiled as we walked away with our first trollip and let us develope the natural gun-shyness that keeps us STD free and unmarried to the first loud mouthed b8tch who gives good head

the simple fact is part of girls learning abou tlove is switching boys for petty and ususally fical reasons
(break out your "he was an asshole" stories now)
but sooner or later you dumped some nice guy because it fit your mood at the time

so from our perspective, yes, you are indeed that bad
it requires love to make you liveable
and love hurts
http://www.neteze.com/space/cds/gifs/no/hairofthedog.jpg

[dub]

If the vast majority of men are dogs and the vast majority of
women really ARE that bad. (which is true, you are totally right billy)

Then why, (it has always baffled me) does everyone somehow
think they arent the majority.

Id like to think im better to girls than most guys, but im not.

More people need to admit it.

[MAC]

dub, it occurs to me that we are each unique and individual assholes

unfortunately there is no simple way to express this while specifing our personal flaws in dealing with the opposite sex...so
we get lumped together

in many ways we each probably DO treat women better than most guys

but that doesn't excuse us from the men-r-dogs list when it comes to our flaws
the same is true for the gals.

so it comes down to what flaws will you live with?

me:
the average girl on the average day....I wouldn't waste 1 iota of true attention or caring nor pursue a personal interaction (such as dating)

now, toss out a POTENTIAL mate (which is what dating is except for the few social butterflies among us) and enter a woman as part of your job/school/etc
someone to interact with on a professional or neighborly level thats another story, I bear no hard feelings and infact, show alot of respect to women in general (especially certain intelligent, dedicated, respectable ladies)

examples:
waitress/clerk
county employee/mail lady
saleswoman/technician
mother/grandmother

in their functions I am cordial and I even try to be charming when I have the sense of mind

but take the same girl/lady out form behind her counter or away from work and she approaches me in public to talk.....

now I listen for the voice in my head
"this gal is 1)married 2)dating someone 3)younger than 25 4)pretty fucked up 5)stupid as a stump 6) unemployeed 7) smoking right now as we speak 8) still talking about nothing while I am thinking 9) dressed like a little boy 10) touching me"

I smile and politely leave. Not because I am listening TO the voice I just discribed but because I DIDN'T hear the other voice (not the one from my crotch either)

same voice that picks friends
same voice that tells me to say OK when someone needs help
same voice that tells me not to die or quit or give up

the one that says
"..this gal is 1 in a million"

I miss that voice

[PB]

All good replies gentleman... I'm impressed...

I have more male friends that probably the majority of the men on this forum, not boyfriends.. but just friends... I think I understand men a great deal more than I do women... and I am a female.

Men work off instict.. women work off impulse... I think that pretty much sums it up!

Men seem to feed off invironment alot of the time.. men will make a decision and do it.... and will follow through and back up whatever they did til the day they die.
Women.... well they just don't make sense sometimes.

Not all men are dogs.. infact most the men I know are not dogs.

As for admitting to being likea majority of whatever.... if I were like the majority of them... I can honestly say I would let you know. I have certain aspects that pretty much all women do.... there is a difference... I am not a bitch just because I feel it's my right as a woman... which is the part I don't get. It's not so much about just the majority... but I do know why .. I don't get it...

OH and BTW... MAC... I am not a threat of devistation to you... you have to let someone close enough to cause damage before they can.... as long as you don't get close enough.. you can't get burned.. but at the same time.. you won't get warm at the same time... that thought... the one you miss.... I wish you luck in feeling it again some day.... just remember.. we aren't always bad... you have known that i'm not nor have i ever been for as long as you have known me.

V.

ps.. i am truely impressed by the responses.... another thing i'd like information on... why do you think that we punish other people for what someone else has done???

[zim]

lowered expectations.

edit: spelling, yes i managed to mispell one word of a two word post.

[PB]

Originally posted by ZiM
loswered expectations.

a little more detail Zim sweetie

V.

[zim]

Originally posted by PB
a little more detail Zim sweetie

V.

when one enters their first relationship, they dont know what to expect. they expect things to be... for lack of a better description... good.

once you have your heart torn out by a psychotic... bitch the first time you realize that its more than possible that this perfect little package of happiness will have a darker side. you realize they're human too and prone to human qualities.

when you enter your next relationship you dont necessarily EXPECT it, but it is no longer impossible for her to turn into a raving lunatic.

when she doesnt fail to go nutso and tear your heart out with a dull spoon your expectations of the other side is lowered even more.

you enter your next relationship, once again you dont expect it to happen, but you realize its not only possible, but probable.

wash rinse repeat.

each time you're hurt again, a little less each time because you start to expect it.

that expectation is the punishment you speak of.

when you begin to go into a relationship expecting her to turn into an evil being of hell... you're punishing her for the failings of (yourself and) her predecessors.


--luckily, i've only had one ex turn evil and senseless on me. my current SO is... words fail me.

[squee]

Oh PB I lurve you.

It's odd because I usually find myself paying the price for the last dude that was with whichever girl I'm trying to get to know...in the case of the last one, it was another chick, tho (that didn't turn out too good).

I really can't say one way or another if women are bitchy...only, I will say that I'm tired of playing this game...like, you can't go and talk them, because they automatically spin up and suddenly you're dealing with their expectations for your actions and...it's a pain in the ass. Is it too much just to ask for a simple conversation?