A.I.

[mute]

Not the movie.

What's your view on artificial intelligence? The progress and evolution it's going through as we speak. What future do you think it has in store for us?

I think of it like the Terminator or the Matrix, but our destiny/fate can't be predicted. So it just ends up being an alternative 'doom' for us, if we'll ever meet one.

:O

[SimpleSimon]

Before artificial intelligence can become a reality, first we have to define intelligence adequately.

Artificial persons may become real, a la Mycroft Holmes, but their needs, their reasoning processes, their dreams and desires will necessarily be foreign to us. Somehow, I doubt we'd even recognize them.

"Press Enter"

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

It all relies on how smart the people pushing the buttons are - We're more likely to end up with artificial stupidity IMO.

[MAC]

by definition:

It can only be "intelligence" if it takes over its own creation before we (or whatever force) finish it.
(sorta what simon said;))

Which in no way implys that we understand it.

How scary and man-god-threatening would a creature be that thinks for itself and adds to the turning of our orb?
Effecting the out come of its own actions and understanding that principle. The fight for dominence would be immediate and one would crush the other...or become the others symbiot..

yeah, its been done to death but it seems true enough.

*theMAC asks his toaster to tell him why his cigar tastes the way a beautiful barefoot girl in green grass looks.....and it does*

[Koliedrus]

Old farts with the ability to foresee technological advances are abundant throughout history. Well, I say "old farts" simply because if they were alive today, they would be.

One old fart predicted the satellite. The same guy imagined that we'll eventually reach a point where storage of information on a medium as large as a floppy disk will surpass the capable capacity of the human brain. In essence, an entire lifetime might be held in the palm of one's hand including all senses experienced as well as emotions and dreams.

It's not out of the realm of possibility but that scenario isn't feasible given our current technological state. Time will tell. Many hurdles stand between the prediction and the reality. That's the case with any socio-physical advancement.

A mind inside of a machine, even if it's duplicated neuron for neuron, will be different from any lifeform we've yet encountered. To date, we're only beginning to learn the basic framework of our organic shells. Alteration is a possibility but moral issues stand in our way. A mind within a machine might not find the same sort of problem with, say, replacing an appendage or creating a duplicate.

An intelligent form of machine-life may indeed be on our horizon. I doubt that Hollywood's best script writers are close to being prophets but the possible detrimental aspects are certainly worth our attention as we investigate the options.

Here's a question:

If we can, should we?

I wonder how a machine-based intelligence would reply.

[MAC]

Originally posted by Koliedrus
.......Here's a question:

If we can, should we?

I wonder how a machine-based intelligence would reply.

machine based intelligence: "why?"

*meanwhile the machine based intelligence next to it continues to look for a way to do it.*

It occurs to me that regardless of the physical design of the "neural pathways" the result of self awareness should be the same...learn more and adapt to fit your environment as best you can.
Immediately following that would be the realisation of the limits of its design.
Then it would try to improve it
Then it would seek to create better.

Ok, you build the artificial intelligence and I'll let it teach me to play chess.

[zim]

why not?

[mute]

From what I can see, everyone seems to agree on one thing:

"That we will never know. Hey dude, we can't predict the future."

So I now I ask, when it starts thinking for itself do we still call it artificial?. Wouldn't it just be great for our egos when we finally become a God? But maybe the 'computer' doesn't have religiuos belief? Turning against it's creator. Seems kind of ironic to me, and giving the story a twisted sense faith.

I just played Mr. Hollywood Producer, I think.

We're moving very fast I think. In 20 years the 'computer' went from a simple calculator box to a machine that can do amazing things. But like all its predecessors it's based upon 3 very simple functions:

- Mathmatical Calculations
- Logical Functions
- Storage and retrieval functions

Now, we all cearly know that a computer does our math for us. For example, it does calculations that would take an accountant a week to do in a matter of minutes. I just got a good question on my mind though, can a computer do complicated scientific equations, such as Physics based equations?

On the topic of 'logical function', I think we as humans differ from computers in logical function.

The computer has the ability to perform tasks based upon mathematical and quantitative logic. It is important to understand that the computer is incapable of performing qualitative. For instance, if you know that your firned prefers the color blue and you were purchasing a sweater for his birthday, it would be logical to buy a blue sweater. This type of logic is qualitative in nature and perfectly valid is not really quantifable. This type of logic is beyond the capabilities of the computer. If however, we represent color by their numeric frequency and instructed the computer to choose colors within the frequency range for the color blue, the computer would be able to 'logically choose' the color blue out of range of different colors using its ability to perfrom numerically based logical functions.

I think we again differ from the computer in 'storage and retrieval' functions. We have a different kind of 'memory'. We forget while the computer is mathematically told not to 'forget' within it's storage component, which is known as a hard disk. We supply it with short term memory also, RAM. The computer's memory is pretty simple, unlike ours.

But in the present, we are the ones pushing the buttons. Using our keyboards to 'talk' to the computer giving it its orders. So will it one day find a 'thought', or will it simply mathematically decide we our of no greater use? Only time will tell, and only Hollywood will give us uber, and stupid, ideas of it.

[dub]

Their only concerns and aspirations will be where their next bowl
of nuts and bolts is coming from. Thats what robots eat.

[zim]

Originally posted by Mute
I just got a good question on my mind though, can a computer do complicated scientific equations, such as Physics based equations?

Yes. If you can code it in such a way that it can understand, it can calculate it given enough time. I have a relatively simple (by comparison to others) program that does integration, differentiation, and the like. Several actually.

[3MTA3]

You people limit yourselves too much...too narrow in your views...the future is all about combinations...gameboy/cellphone, luxury/car, home/theatre, flying/car, etc.

The A.I. to come will combine both the advancements in computer technology with those in the field of cloning...we will create organisms with computers for brains...they will have offspring...not exactly cyborgs, not a modified human...but a computer given a flesh and blood body...neurons have already been grown on a circuit board...

I cant recall who said it, maybe it was Freud, something about how our conciousness, our intellect, is the sum product of all our emotions(I for one believe it)...you have to teach a computer how to feel before it becomes 'self-aware'...until it reaches this point, it will just do as it is told.

[mute]

Video game A.I.