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Koliedrus
08-13-2002, 03:36 PM
Not that you guys ever actually use the damn thing...

http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/internet/08/12/encryption.flaw.ap/index.html



Flaw discovered in encryption software
PGP hole could let unauthorized people decode e-mail
August 12, 2002 Posted: 9:46 AM EDT (1346 GMT)

NEW YORK (AP) -- Snoopers on the Internet could decode sensitive e-mail messages simply by tricking recipients into hitting the reply button, computer security researchers warned Monday.

The flaw affects software using Pretty Good Privacy, the most popular tool for scrambling e-mail.

Researchers at Columbia University and Counterpane Internet Security Inc. found that someone intercepting an encrypted message could descramble it by repackaging the message and passing it on to the recipient.

The message would appear as gibberish, possibly prompting the recipient to request a resend.

If the recipient includes the original text with that request -- as many people have their configured their software to do automatically when they reply -- the interceptor could then read the original message.

Bruce Schneier, Counterpane's chief technology officer, said most people would never dream that security can be compromised simply by returning gibberish.

Intercepting a message is trivial using software known as sniffers, and companies may use such programs to monitor employees on its network. An oppressive government may snoop on its citizens if it also controls service providers or other access points.

Thus, human rights workers, some FBI agents and even the son of a jailed mobster have used PGP to encrypt messages sent over the Internet and data stored on computers.

So powerful is the technology that the United States government until 1999 sought to restrict its sale out of fears that criminals, terrorists and foreign nations might use it.

Serious, but tough to exploit
Jon Callas, principal author of the OpenPGP standard at the Internet Engineering Task Force, said the vulnerability is serious but very difficult to exploit.

And, he said, many PGP software packages compress messages before sending. Researchers found that such compression can sometimes thwart the unauthorized decoding.

Nonetheless, an update to the OpenPGP standard was to be released Monday to coincide with the announcement of the flaw. Many developers already have begun to write software fixes, Callas said.

In the meantime, Schneier and Callas urged recipients of PGP e-mail to avoid including full text of messages when replying.

Schneier and co-researchers Kahil Jallad and Jonathan Katz, who were at Columbia University when they discovered the flaw, identified its possibility about a year ago. The latest paper offered a demonstration of the flaw in practice.

The findings come weeks after researchers at eEye Digital Security Inc. discovered that hackers could exploit a programming flaw in companion software -- a plug-in for Microsoft Corp.'s Outlook program -- to attack a user's computer and in some cases, unscramble messages.

In neither case does the flaw affect the actual encrypting formulas used to scramble messages.

MAC
08-13-2002, 06:32 PM
hmmmmm

Someone once warned me about a trick where you get a nice official email from microsoft that says they found a flaw and made patch please download it....except th elink actually downloads a trojan or sumthin.

and thats why we have to use a proper procedure.

I have also been told that due to buffering and such forwarded emails may grow exponentially each time they are transfered.

hmmmm

thats it for tech knowledge from me....

Billyman
08-14-2002, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Koliedrus
Not that you guys ever actually use the damn thing...

Hey, I've tried damnit. I read some of the tutorals. I've read the damn instructions. Gimme somethin' a little less complicated and I'm game. Must be that lazyness thing. Dunno, prolly. I've even asked for a tutoral by a user. I got nothing short of "figure it out your damn self". Heh, but I have figured out a secret. If it's that damn private.......use your 2.4 gig telephone.

Torque
08-14-2002, 02:02 AM
Eway ancay useay isthay.

Billyman
08-14-2002, 03:43 AM
Originally posted by Torque
Eway ancay useay isthay.

That was hilarious. :rofl:

MAC
08-15-2002, 05:41 AM
dammit torque....you didn't put my key in that encryption now how can I decrypt it?

Oh well, I guess the FED's can spend millions on a machine to do it.