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Dog Breath
03-26-2001, 06:46 PM
I would like to discuss some of the more blatant lies perpetrated during the Clinton administration. I really don't want to dig into details as there is more information than can be dealt with here. I would like to start with TWA flight 800.
Most of you know I have worked in the aerospace industry and my home town is centered around it. This you might not know. During the early investigation my dad and a man he works with were asked to determine the possibility a shoulder fired missile took out the aircraft. They researched it and found the Russian red eye missile could easily hit the target at that range. Why then did the missile not hit the engine? Shouldn't that be the hottest spot? Nope they went to LAX and filmed that type of aircraft on takeoff and exactly where the explosion started is a heat exchanger for the cooling system used during takeoff. That was the hottest / highest contrast target. They filed that report. There were over 200 witnesses that saw something rise off the water and hit the plane.
Why did the FAA say there was "No chance that a missile was involved"?
The Masad told US inelegance before the investigation that there were two missiles one was fired and the other tossed overboard. A pair of men rented a boat shortly before the incident and returned it directly after neglecting to stop in for their deposit.
There is tons of evidence. Why are they so emphatic that there is NO CHANCE that the plane could have been shot down.
What about the report of a pilot in New Jersey a few weeks earlier that said he saw a rocket fly by the cockpit. Was that a first attempt?
What is the purpose of this lie? Ticket sales? I can't imagine why we can't be trusted with the truth.

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MuffyTheVampyreLayer
03-26-2001, 07:13 PM
Is good government an oxymoron????

I can't believe you even had to ask....

There's no government like no government.

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Koliedrus
03-26-2001, 07:22 PM
International relations? A finger to point and no place to point it? A place to point it but unwilling to suffer the repercussions?

Speculation is one of our gifts. Unfortunately it offers up more scenarios than we can confirm in short order.

What became of your dad's findings? Can you post them?

Dog Breath
03-26-2001, 07:52 PM
I haven't researched the world trade center bombing but the Oklahoma City one really is obvious. the first time I saw the building on the news it was apparent the damage was high explosive from inside. A fertilizer bomb is a low explosive and would have had a more "water-baloon effect" destroying less of the building and more of the buildings up and down the street. Also alternate pillars in the parking garage were blasted in an attempt to collapse the building. The primary blast was not at ground level.

Is Timothy McVeigh a patsy or CIA? If he is a patsy why is he still breathing?

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Deadpool
03-26-2001, 08:54 PM
Man....lugging a huge grail or stinger missile around...kind of hard to stay covert with those huge things.

Yeah, about the patsy part. I mean, if the government has no chance in capturing the perps, they gotta blame it on someone. The public demands it. There was were a string of bombings that occurred in China recently, it was all blamed on one guys. Yeah right.

MstrG
03-26-2001, 09:53 PM
Conspiracies, blah.

The reason they say there is "no chance" it was a shlouder launched missile, or any other kind, is because they have tested the debris every way from Sunday to determine there is no residue that would have to be present from such a weapon.

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Dog Breath
03-26-2001, 09:59 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by MstrG:
Conspiracies, blah.

The reason they say there is "no chance" it was a shlouder launched missile, or any other kind, is because they have tested the debris every way from Sunday to determine there is no residue that would have to be present from such a weapon.

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They found nitrates all over the plane. It's in the report. They said it is "possibly" from the scent dummies they use to train the bomb sniffing dogs. They found propellent residue also.
I am not arguing that a missile is the only thing that could have caused it. My point is there is enough evidence to prove that it's a possibility but it is flatly denied.


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Pianomahnn
03-27-2001, 12:27 AM
Good ol' US of A.

HEIL CLITLER!!

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MAC
03-27-2001, 01:14 AM
Dn't forget the influence of the $.
Clinton promised to cut military/FBI/CIA spending in '92. The ATF was to be the first to get cut.
Waco
World Trade Center
Oklahoma City
etc.

Your company has a new owner.
What is your job?
Better justify your cost.

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