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squee
03-21-2002, 04:01 PM
These are a couple of things I want to poll everyone on. Please try to limit your responses to a paragraph or so. I want to generate some discussion on these topics.

1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?
2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)
3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?
4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?

If I come up with any more big vague questions I'll be sure to let you know.

skalie
03-21-2002, 04:07 PM
What are your three good reasons for sex?

Koliedrus
03-21-2002, 04:17 PM
Make a poll! No, really. That's why it's there. Use it.

skalie
03-21-2002, 04:22 PM
Why? I only asked what his three reasons to have sex were.

SimpleSimon
03-21-2002, 04:47 PM
Originally posted by squee
These are a couple of things I want to poll everyone on. Please try to limit your responses to a paragraph or so. I want to generate some discussion on these topics.

1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?

Zero, zilch, zip, nada - the only value in human life is what we create for ourselves.

2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)

The first 3 are obvious - thought about dominance/heirarchy issues here?

3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?

A better question in my view is - Why should we be tolerant?

4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?

No, it doesn't violate seperation of church/state requirements - if the politician is truly religious, then he/she must by necessity color every decision based upon that framework.

If I come up with any more big vague questions I'll be sure to let you know.

Oh, goody!

skalie
03-21-2002, 04:52 PM
obvious?

rage
03-21-2002, 04:58 PM
Originally posted by squee
1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?Well, since they both basically mean the same thing...I will say they have an inherent AND intrinsic value.
*Edit: in rereading this question, I can see where you might be just supplying intrinsic as an synonym instead of two different choices for us. In that case, my answer should be apparent...I believe they do have an inherent value.
2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)More than three reasons? You got me, I'm thinking, reproduction, recreation, and exercise. Money too, depending on who you are, I guess.
3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?Tolerance in politics? Well, tolerance is respecting the beliefs of others. It is also being able to endure things. I would think tolerance in politics would allow people to work together better. Right now politicians sweat to much of the small stuff, and can't always learn to work together in productive ways. Incorporating some tolerance (ok, you give on this part, I'll give on that part, and we will "endure" these changes and "respect them") would probably go a long way to making a better goverment.
4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State? This right here is a sorta grey area. Instances like <a href="http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orl-locsatan17031702mar17.story?coll=orl-home-headlines">this</a> are definitely unaccepatble. So are things like:
*The town of Franklinton, La., recently put up four signs proclaiming “Jesus is Lord Over Franklinton.”
*Putting the 10 Commandments in Court Rooms/Schools/Monuments.
Politicians are supposed to not be influenced by their personal beliefs when making laws (in most cases, some instances, it will happen no matter what, and it isn't always that big of a deal.) If they do that, then they are not committed to some of this nations founding principles, and I would think one of the most important ones. Freedom of Religion. You can't have true freedom of religion if your goverment is pushing one paticular set of beliefs. It creates undue pressure, and can eventually lead to oppression and persecution of those who believe differently. Basically, if that law or decision they make pushes any particular belief, it DEFINITELY violates seperation of church/state. Laws like "don't kill" for example, don't push a paticular belief, and though the reasoning behind it for one person may come from the bible, people like me believe that the reasoning behind that is because there IS an inherent value to human life.

MuffyTheVampyreLayer
03-21-2002, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by squee
1. Philosophy. Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?

No - I tend to think that due to humans fundamental self interest, any apparent intrinsic value to human life can be explained away through our need to justify existing social contracts - i.e. In response to 'though shall not kill' I don't think you can say 'because its bad' - I think you have to appeal to a duty to preserve life lest everyone becomes a murderer.

Originally posted by squee

2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)

Reproduction
Recreation
Release

Originally posted by squee
3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?

? Tolerant of who/what?

Originally posted by squee
4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?

Depends what you mean by reasoning. If you merely mean reasoning in the sense that his religious values have influenced him to have certain political positions then no, if you mean that his policies are dictated by Church doctrine, then yes.

skalie
03-21-2002, 07:26 PM
Originally posted by MuffyTheVampyreLayer

Reproduction
Recreation
Release



He's looking for more.

MuffyTheVampyreLayer
03-21-2002, 07:29 PM
Cleaning out cavities
Warming the dead
Genetic exploitation of animals

Billyman
03-22-2002, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by MuffyTheVampyreLayer
Cleaning out cavities
Warming the dead
Genetic exploitation of animals

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!:D

Mr. Snrub
03-22-2002, 05:00 AM
Originally posted by squee
1. Philosophy.Is there an inherent or intrinsic value to human life?

I think people are born with an inherent right to life. They can however through their actions forsake it.

2. Sex. What is sex for? (I can think of at least three good reasons, I'm looking for more)

Fun, Affection, Comfort/Reassurance, and procreation.

3. Politics. What does tolerance mean and how should we go about being tolerant?[

Letting people live their lives how they wish so long as it doesn't really affect you.

4. Religion. With regards to church and state issues, do you think that if a politician's reasoning for doing something stems from his religion, it violates Church-and-State?

Depends. He should vote according to his voters' wishes and his own conscience. If there is a catholic politician and both his constituents and his conscience tell him to vote a certain way, but there is a Papal Bull telling him to vote another way, he should go by the former.