Debate for y'all...

[Escape Artist]

I was discussing this with my FUCKING BITCH ex...ahem..

If your S.O. (g/f, wife, whatever) attacks you, is it right to defend yourself with equal force or should you allow them to beat on you whenever they want?

Another one:

Why is it that men typically get trampled on for the cause of "women's rights"? I repect women, but the issues of extreme child support payments, etc are a bit outrageous. I haven't heard of men's rights, does that mean we have none?

Have fun, kids. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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[Mudflap]

<FONT COLOR="Orange">1. Men should defend themselves only to the point of not allowing the woman to cause him bodily harm. Force should not be responded to equally. If the woman has the advantage over the man in a physical confrontation he should defend himself as best as possible or haul ass.

2. Men often have their rights trampled on because too many men have neglected their responsibilities entirely. Legislation was enacted in response to this. The result: In the matters of divorce, the man usually gets reamed. This fact plays a large role in my decision to be single and childless at this point in my life.</FONT c>

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[Escape Artist]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
What MudFlap said goes for me too. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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I kill j00. See if I post any more topics! pfffft!



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[estero]

<font color=pink>WOuld you be upset or hurt if your soon to be wife TOOK your last name but used her own at work?

This is a HUGE debate between my boyfriend and I.

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[Pianomahnn]

I myself am a very calm person, and would never involve myself in a situation where anyone would attack me. But, if situation ever did arise, and it was a woman, I would place them in a hold so it would contain them. I prefer not to hurt someone, and would like to think I could contain a feeble woman.

Men inherently suck as fathers, and so do women. But, because women have been classified as capable parents in the past, they will get preferential treatment in all divorce situations, because they're the "victim." Payments should be equal. Whatever the woman pays, the man should pay. All bills should be split 50/50. But, that won't work.

The system is fucked. End of story. It will eventually change though, for the better or worse, I have no idea.

grrrrrr

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[KiwiTrip]

<font color=limegreen> ARG!!!! "feeble"!!!
piano.. *sigh*.. you infuriate me so..

if you met me i doubt seriously you would consider me... feeble.. in fact.. ask anyone in here.. most of them know me in the real..and would hardly use the word "feeble" to describe me..

i hate stereotypes

and no i am not picking on you..and if our mail server hadnt crashed i would have replied to the other thread.. alas.. i have been staring at the floor in depression as i repeat the same message over and over and over and over and over and.....

at any rate.. on the topic.. if the woman attacks the man.. she better have sized up the situation first and know that she has an upper hand somewhere.. unless she is 4ft 3 weighing 100lbs and knows no self defense.. you should defend yourself as best as you can.. i have started a fight with many a man... i was drunk.. and didnt know better.. but he pissed me off.. and i dont back down.. not to a woman or a man.. i have been lucky enough to have gotten mad at the most respectful of guys it seems.. that and having my brawny boys surrounding me always helps.. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif .. cause so far i havent gotten laid out.. granted i didnt throw any punches.. but if one of them had laid me out .. i wouldnt have blamed him

men's rights .. hah.. you had those for the last several hundred years.. mens rights was the ability to own land, vote, go out without an escort, fuck whores.. the list goes on and on..

we deserve a little good stuff dontcha think?</font>

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[King Bastard]

If ANYONE attacks me, they had better do a good job of it, or there will be a world of hurt dropped on them. Man, Woman Child, whatever....

Yes, children too. Just look at the most recent school shooting incedent for ONE reason why i say that.

I would meet the oppostion with equal force, and a bit more. If you're gonna fight, fight to win, not to a stalemate.

sorry if the above pissed anyone off, but it's how I feel.

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[Mattdecay]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Pianomahnn:

if situation ever did arise, and it was a woman, I would place them in a hold so it would contain them. I prefer not to hurt someone, and would like to think I could contain a feeble woman.

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<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">What about a Judo-trained bodybuilder? How would you handle that?





<FONT size="-5">P.S.- I want to start a martial arts thread now, but I'm too lazy...Hey you! You do it!</FONT s>
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[Dog Breath]

I have been in that situation so I can say for sure what I would do.

When breaking up with my ex GF we had some nasty scream fights in one of them she hit me in the face several times. I didn't back down I stared at her in the eye and she stopped hitting me she covered her face in shame, cried and left. Aparently my response was more harsh than hers without being physical. She was no whimp she was a bit taller than I and we both worked out at the time. It hurt like hell but I couldn't raise my hand. My dad would have been disapointed. She moved in with my brother and resumed her crank habbit. He beat the shit out of her one night and my dad didn't talk to him for years. They are OK now.
The thing I remember about her most was her exquisite blow jobs. *Sigh*

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[zoey]

i would threaten to sing. and then if that doesn't work, i'll pee on them.

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[Rabble Rouser]

I'm with KB here. If anyone attacks me, they're getting attacked right back. I don't care who it is. One time, when I was at my friend's house, her little cousin was there (about 4-5 years old), and he started kicking me in the leg and yelling for no reason (he was kicking to hurt...not in fun). I didn't care...I grabbed his leg, twisted it, took him to the ground, and yelled at the little maggot. He left me alone then. I've always hit back when I'm hit, but I'm never the first to do it. I don't like to fight, but will if the situation arises. This goes for anyone. If you are attacked, fight back. Don't be a victim.

As for men's rights, Kiwi said it best.

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[Asmodeus]

Here ya'll go, a truthful example of what can result when brainless, spineless, and basically highly annoying legislaters get the upperhand in dictating how people should live their lives, etc. Oh, and this is a true story too.
A friend of mine was suspecting his wife was cheating on him. So he told her he was leaving for the weekend. He didn't. He waited around.
Well, she went out and came back several hours later, drunk and with another guy; twenty years her younger. Well, my friend drove up as they were going into "his" house. She went ballistic. She grabbed a tire iron from the bed of his truck and beat him with it. She got tired of that and started using her fingernails etc. She pulled out his hair. And I can go on. He just stood there. He didn't defend himself. He didn't hit her. He didn't grab her. He let her do as she would.
Well, that next day he went to file for a divorce, broke nose, missing teeth, et al. Yadda yadda, blah, blah. I will make this short. She got the house. She got all the vehicles. She got the kids. She gets the nearly $3000 a month in alimony. He got not a god damned thing except a disturbing the peace arrest(which was two days after the fact), a spousal abuse arrest, an assault arrest, fired from his job because his wife was telling people he had beaten her, which he had not, and not even a vehicle to drive to find a new job so he could pay the mortgage oh "his" house, which was now hers- and she don't have to pay any of the bills, he does- the alimony, the child support, the car payments on three new cars, etc.
Women's lib? Excuse me? Men getting the better deal of any situation? What the fuck?
Now I agree with equality of the sexes. But, is this equality? Not in a long shot.
Oh, sure, if you are half-blinded from the perennial beer-goggles you have strapped to your head while you are shin deep from licking someone's boots. Excuse me. People, you need to get your head out of your asses and see the fucking light. "Oh, it won't happen to me." Just wait. The time will come when a woman you work with will say you sexually harrassed her and there goes your job. You will then be black-listed(balled) for any other job you would hope to apply for, except for the few I know of that prefer child molesting ex-cons- god, that was a terrible job.
"That was just a insolated icedent." Do you really think so? Look around. There are examples of what I wrote of everywhere and everyday.

Waiting for the collective shit to hit the proverbial fan. Have fun people.

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