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Koliedrus
02-09-2001, 12:53 PM
Technology = Good
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Yup, I own one and the fucker WORKS!
Be warned, though. Unless you've already had success with the methods in "Fun With Sleep" and "HyperNaut Training (Phase II)", a dreaming mask will only keep you awake and get you pissed of for loosing sleep. It's not magic.
In essence, a dream mask monitors your eye movement and activates when you've been in REM sleep for a while. Once certain predetermined conditions are met, it blinks LEDs that are directly over your eyelids. You can vary the brightness, length, speed and sequence of the light pulses.
Kiddies, this shit took up rooms a few years ago! Now it's all on a circuit board.
Again, I don't recommend this option if you aren't serious about controlling dreams. It's not only a financial investment but also one of time and determination.
On a more positive note, once I put the mask on, I'm automatically in MIME. I KNOW that my dreams will be detected and a cue will be given.
You know how you sometimes work external events into your dreams? Like, when the phone rings and you're dreaming of, say, being in school you hear the bell that tells you it's time to go to your next class? This mask does something like that.
The last time I used it, I was dreaming that I was in Maine, looking out over the Atlantic at night. I saw a lighthouse flash in the distance and remembered. I awoke long enough to take off the mask and went right back into the dream. The rest...
Well, it's not in the public dream journal now is it http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif
Daydreams are for pussies. Lucid dreams kick all ASS!
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Lightbulb
02-09-2001, 03:13 PM
Kol
<A HREF="http://www.monroeinstitute.org/"> These people</A> have been investigating consciousness for a while and speak with great enthusiasm about their Hemi-Sync technology, which uses the <A HREF="http://www.monroeinstitute.org/research/alpha-binaural-beat.html">binaural beat</A> effect of closely modulated stereo tones.
I poked around looking for the exact mechanics of binaural beats. Most of the companies which offer tapes or generators charge a fortune, but I found I could synthesize exactly the same effects with my humble Mac.
Technicalities aside, one of the interesting effects I have been studying using these tones is the biofeedback effects on cyclical brain rhythms that these tones reveal. Basically they allow one to observe the synthesis of acoustic information within the neurological realm, and as a by product the rate at which the brain 'turns over'.
I haven't tried any lucid dreaming experiments with the tones though.
Do your dream-specs have earphones connected?
Edit: Impenetrably confusing URL tags.
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Koliedrus
02-10-2001, 04:48 PM
I shelled out about $300 US.
Lightbulb, fire up a thread about your experiences! I encourage it. I may not have the time to look over your links but if you have an alternative method that you've tried, I'll gladly pay it the attention it deserves http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif
Since my lucid dreams originally began spontaneously, the mask is just a reminder. I haven't considered the options that are offered.
Mrs. Kol once asked me what I wanted for my birthday.
"Everything", I replied. I proceeded to explain portions of what you know and was overwhelmed when the mask was delivered. I wear it when I have a certain thought in mind and wish to carry it with me into sleep instead of leaving it for when I awake. More often than not, I end up in circumstances that are nothing like my original intention but I'm there! My experience is just as real as any other situation my brain can process.
Don't cough out a bunch of cash with the idea that a mask will make you fly in your sleep.
Go back and read "Fun With Sleep"
Practice.
Sweet dreams, Hypernauts.
Koliedrus
03-06-2001, 08:36 PM
Last night I ran the mask through its paces. Since the experience is still relatively fresh in my mind I thought I'd give you an idea of how it works.
I didn't have any particular thought or image in mind when I went to sleep. Spontaneous thoughts are just as much fun as a planned out dream.
I was sitting on a beach watching the sun set. Salty air, seagulls, crashing surf, distant sails... all just as real as any experience I've ever had. Half of the sun's disk had dipped below the horizon. It was larger than it should be and I noticed that I could see the barest traces of sunspots. I suspected something was odd but still was unaware that I was dreaming.
I remembered seeing the Green Flash long ago. It happens just as the last bit of the sun falls below the horizon as it sets on the ocean. For a brief instant, the atmosphere sweeps the sun's rays through the spectrum and flares with green light.
Just as I expected, the flash blinked but then the sky erupted in a continuing series of flashes I couldn't explain.
That's when I remembered the mask. I was deep in REM sleep and the mask had picked it up. The flashes I saw were my cue. I came partially awake (just enough to move), swept the mask aside and began a technique know as "Dream Spinning".
When a lucid dream begins to fade, the visual senses are the first to go. Touch is the last. With the memory of the beach in my mind, I spun my "dream body" with arms outstretched. The more I spun, the more "real" my dream body became. It took just a short time before the sound of crashing waves joined the feel of wet sand on my feet. When I stopped and opened my "eyes", I could see stars winking on over the ocean.
I was back and I knew I was dreaming. The rest of the dream is between me and my dreamlog http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif
Edit: Neglected to mention that there are several settings (as well as custom settings) that work with light to heavy sleepers. It can emit sounds or trigger a device to start (tape player etc) but I've never used those options.
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Koliedrus
07-19-2001, 01:55 PM
Yesterday, I broke a personal record.
My mind was racing before I went to sleep so I tried to slow it down by reading a few chapters from a book but I couldn't sustain my attention on the story. After calling out words on a couple of pages I decided to bring out the dream mask.
For those of you who don't know about it, it's a lightweight sleeping mask with built-in electronics. It monitors your eye movements and flashes LEDs over each eye when REM sleep is detected. It helps to remind your sleeping mind that you are indeed asleep without actually waking you up. Settings are customizable.
Yesterday, I set the mask for a deep sleeper and headed for dreamspace.
In the third and fourth dream I had, I couldn't tell dream from reality and, in fact, had to ask Mrs. Kol about a conversation we apparently never had.
At one point in the fifth dream, I was in the process of a heated debate with a friend and became confused when the walls began to beep and the lights in the room flashed red. I quickly recalled the dream mask, took it off and asked myself, "Why am I still wearing this and how could I see through it?"
(note: I took the mask off in my dream, not IRL)
Then I realized that it is impossible to see through the mask so I had just been reminded that I was dreaming. Lucid dream #1 began at that point.
My experience progressed from there. I decreased the mask's settings to alert a light sleeper with a few, dim pulses. Each time I recognized the flashes for what they were and entered into lucidity.
When I finally took off the mask and queried it, I had entered into REM sleep 14 times. Roughly 8 of those dreams were lucid. This may not seem important to you but I've progressed from having one lucid dream per year as a child to one per month after learning how, to one per week, to one per day with effort.
8 in one day!
I'm inclined to agree with TheMAC. This isn't practice; this is DOING!
One thing that is practice came about when I chose to dream myself to my Mom's funeral. Mom Kol is 77 and in great health for her age but that day will come eventually. Now that I've "been" there... (I wonder if I can teach this to my sibs...)
Some things I cannot discuss. After all, I'm a male with a healthy sexual appetite and Mrs. Kol may not appreciate my romp with those Pets http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif
Oh what fun!!!! And I felt GREAT when I woke up!
Remind me to tell you about the two headed warriors with six arms and three brains.
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Kayla
07-19-2001, 06:26 PM
i want a dream mask...since the first time i saw it advertised i thought it was a great idea....i'm pretty good at remembering my dreams but im prety bad at knowing when i'm dreaming..
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<FONT COLOR="blue">did you miss me while you were looking for yourself out there </FONT c>
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Koliedrus
07-19-2001, 09:21 PM
The simple act of putting the mask on your head makes it difficult to forget that you are attempting to control your dreams.
Learn the basics first.
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I had a dream the other night that amde me think about this thread.
When I was 7 or 8 I had a dream where I was on a city bus and scobby doo and shaggy where their.
It occurred to me, in the dream, that this was obviously a dream.
Almost all my dreams have been "lucid" ever since. I am aware of them and whats going on and I have a good time influencing them.
I occasionally fall right asleep and have a dream almost immediately. I usually talk in my sleep during these and have no recollection of them.
Its been a couple of years since my last bad dream.
But the other night I had a dream about a person I have not seen in a long time adn it was basically on the topic of an opportunity we had that we did not pursue. I was lucid during it but did not alter its course in anyway cause I wanted to see what happened.
It just played out like a real life talk with another person and we parted.
But the memory was incredibly clear for most of the day afterwards.
Anyway, I thought I'd share that and see what a student of this type of thing thinks.
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Koliedrus
07-25-2001, 04:06 PM
The most difficult part about having a lucid dream is the fear that you won't have one if you try. Notice how that cycle of thought will only keep you awake.
Good stuff, theMac. Lucid dreaming can help you recall memories as well as prepare for an event that has yet to happen. I've been using it as a playground while you people catch up http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif
Here's something that you may find interesting:
Three days ago, work was behind me and I was walking to my vehicle to head for home(page).
A new coworker stopped me and asked me about a dream he had the night before. I'm not sure what he saw as I smiled, looked past him and into "here".
He told me the usual. "I never have dreams."
I convinced them that his memory is normal but that he did in fact dream more often than he realized. The conversation continued with information already posted here.
Yesterday, he told me that my advice disrupted his sleep. Since he's quite a bit larger than I am, this revelation was enough to tense every muscle in my body.
"I had dreams all night! I kept realizing that I was dreaming and I'd wake up! I got four hours of real sleep but I remember more dreams than I've had since I was a kid."
This stuff works, people. I wouldn't press the issue if it didn't.
theMAC is now officially a Hypernaut. Don't stop now that you've just begun.
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Escape Artist
08-20-2001, 11:52 AM
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