i'm curious... [Archive] - The Hypertribe

morgana

01-31-2001, 11:05 PM

in the few hours that i've been here, exploring the boards, reading the posts, i've seen alot of political activity here. everyone has something to say about the politicians, the taxes, the legislation and how it is utilized, etc. every level of government has been ranted about, bashed, spit upon, and condemned. my question to you is:

alright then, what would YOU do differently?

design a legislative structure that you feel could safely replace the current infrastructure of government without causing an economic or social upheaval. in other words, put your money where your mouth is and give some solutions to all these problems you love to rant about.

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Uberwonder

01-31-2001, 11:07 PM

My lawyer just got all my money, sorry.

Dog Breath

01-31-2001, 11:24 PM

Line all the lawyers up and shoot them with depleted uranium. (30mm)

I really like the American governmental system It is just getting enmired in the courts.

And by the way, it is RW's fault because he always starts those threads. I'd rather flirt with the women and talk about butt sex.

According to the spell checker I just made up the word "enmired" Oh well it fits.

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Princess_Heather

02-01-2001, 01:02 AM

Disclaimer: I smoked a bowl an hour ago...

Like I said before... I'm content.

It could be a hell of a lot worse.

I'm sure this country functions the way it does for a reason...

I feel that if enough people were really that unhappy with the way things were going things would be different.

I don't have the time, energy or intrest to do the in depth research necessary for me to have an educated and worth while opinion that I would be certain, proud and satisfied enough with to preach to everyone... so I'm going to stop here as far as government & politics are concerned.

I've experienced different things in my life, that is why I have the view I have. It does not make me dumb or ignorant, it makes me Heather. Rogues life makes him Rogue, G~A's past makes him G~A. We are all unique, which should give us all some common ground. Too bad a lot of people seem to neglect that.

Everybody has different experiences and thus different reasons for feeling the way they do about certian contraversies. (Hey Rogue... what do you think about flushable tampon applicators?)

Putting a person down for having a different point of view or being apathetic about a subject is ludicrous. Try thinking about WHY that particular person may have the opinion that they do. As far as I am concerned... many of the threads here should go something like this... Traffic is a problem for some people, worse for some than others. Just like the government, politics and daily life, it affects people at different degrees. "How do you FEEL about the traffic in L.A.?" I don't give a shit. I've never lived there and only visited once. It has yet to affect my life in a way adverse enough for me to have an opinion. I doubt I will ever live there. "It affects people's lives you know! How dare you not have an opinion! How selfish and ignorant you are! Its the fault of people like YOU that nothing has been done about it and the problem is as bad as it is!" I still don't care. I'm content with my life, LA traffic or not. Life goes on. "You should be slaughtered! You insolent fool! I have to face it every day and YOU don't care! What's wrong with you? Are you retarded? Can't you see the trouble its causing? Laa-aaaa-aaaa-mmmm-B" http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

I was raised in one of the more neutral, protected white upper class community in the nation, can I help that? NO. Can I change that? No. Everything I think, do and believe is rooted in what I have gone through to exist in the present because every decision that I make and every person makes must be based on past experiences. Naturally someone who grew up in the Projects is going to take different stances on life issues than I do.

Nobodies brain can function based on something it has not intrepreted. People learn by living, observing, reflecting, experimenting, etc. Other people can not learn for them, they can not experience for them. You can learn FROM another person and their mistakes and triumphs, but that is dependent only on those you chose to interract with and is filtered by what YOU already know and have experienced.

Every mind that posts here works that way. Nobody knows any better than what they have seen and experienced and therfore should not be blamed and judged because somebody with a different past and different encounters has another opinion. A difference in beliefs does not make a person wrong or unintelligent. In life, there is not a right way to do everything that applies to everyone. As we learn, we figure out what ways are right for us as individuals. We are ALL learning. What we don't know is infinately greater than what we do. That is the one thing every single one of us have in common and just may be the only RIGHT thing in the world.

If you do anything for the good of soceity (and this forum) THINK, CONSIDER and REMEMBER that EVERYONE says what they say for a reason based on what they know about the world which depends solely on what they have gone through unlike any other person that has ever been conceived in the history of the world.

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Pianomahnn

02-01-2001, 01:09 AM

The system works. It's those who are in it that cause no good.

They've manipulated their way to the top and those who helped get them there. Because of the gullibility of the vast majority of humans, it's been allowed to get this far.

I wouldn't change a damn thing with how the basic system works. But it's been so clusterfucked since its inception, it's not what it should be.

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Mr. Snrub

02-01-2001, 01:13 AM

Judicial: I like the Napoleonic system. While the adversary system is much more fun, it's just too unfair to those who don't have the money to defend themselves.

Legislative: I like a bicameral parliamentary system - a lower house elected every four years, and an upper "house of review" elected every four years, although with 2 years seperating the two elections. This produces a nice balance between government accountability and the need for stability. I think the idea of a head of state having any real power is unworkable, althought the head of state should be seperate from the head of government. It causes too much difficulty is the legislative and executive arms of government are working to undermine eachother.

And oh yeah, the voting age should be lowered to 16. And voting should be compulsory.

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morgana

02-01-2001, 01:14 AM

wtf?

/me kicks over the princess's soapbox.

now, would you care to explain what the hell your five page essay has to do with this thread? i'm so sorry if you feel some pent up aggression over how your posts were replied to in another thread. but that has nothing to do with this discussion. you want to rant and wail about how your self-imposed ignorance is OK, then go do it in the topic that it's relevant with. 

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King Bastard

02-01-2001, 01:36 AM

I really wanna hug morgana right now....

but anyway, I dont have what I would qualify as the necessary skills to re-do the entire government. But I do know the smell of bullshit, and our system reeks of it.

I am more the soldier type. Just gimme a target to destroy, and consider it done. I dont like politicos too much, so I have never been to interested in learning their ways.

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Pianomahnn

02-01-2001, 02:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by King Bastard:
I really wanna hug morgana right now....

but anyway, I dont have what I would qualify as the necessary skills to re-do the entire government. But I do know the smell of bullshit, and our system reeks of it.

I am more the soldier type. Just gimme a target to destroy, and consider it done. I dont like politicos too much, so I have never been to interested in learning their ways.

[/quote]

If I ever become a public servent, could you be my bodyguard?

*Public servent is what a politician should be. I think they have it the other way around right now, like the public serves them.

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King Bastard

02-01-2001, 02:42 AM

Sure, all I need is an H&K MP5, a Glock 17 w/rails, tac light and laser (lots of ammo too), and a few good knives. Preferably some from JSP Bladerigger, RJ Martin, or Bud Nealy.

That and training, but the toys MUST come first. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Strider

02-01-2001, 03:48 AM

gone~away

02-01-2001, 03:51 AM

thank you morgana for making an appearance.. you are truly welcome...

what a coincidence you came today http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif (i hope my message isnt lost here http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif )

EDIT: P.S: MORGANA SUCKS LOTS!!!!
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zoey

02-01-2001, 03:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by morgana:
wtf?

/me kicks over the princess's soapbox.

now, would you care to explain what the hell your five page essay has to do with this thread? i'm so sorry if you feel some pent up aggression over how your posts were replied to in another thread. but that has nothing to do with this discussion. you want to rant and wail about how your self-imposed ignorance is OK, then go do it in the topic that it's relevant with. 

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wtf?

/me kicks your stupid green font over

Heather gave us her view about America's government. that IS what you asked for....isn't it?

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Pianomahnn

02-01-2001, 04:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by King Bastard:
Sure, all I need is an H&K MP5, a Glock 17 w/rails, tac light and laser (lots of ammo too), and a few good knives. Preferably some from JSP Bladerigger, RJ Martin, or Bud Nealy.

That and training, but the toys MUST come first. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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I am sure if I get that far in my life, I will be able to get you stuff you might not even know exists. You know, that top secret military shit. Or something.

And who needs training? Just jump around shooting in all directions. So what if a few hundred people die, it would make for a cool movie scene.

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morgana

02-01-2001, 04:06 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by zoey:

wtf?

/me kicks your stupid green font over

Heather gave us her view about America's government. that IS what you asked for....isn't it?

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numbah one: don't step up to the plate to pinch hit for someone else. if the princess has a problem with what i have said, let her be the one to bring it.

numbah two: take your face out of her crotch long enough to actually read the whole post. yeah, i know, it's difficult for you considering that it's longer than two sentences, but i'm sure you can stick it out.

numbah three: "that is what you asked for...isn't it?" that's not what i asked for. i posed a question for all of those who have stated their concern, contempt, and outright hatred of the government to offer alternatives to the standing infrastructure. let me put that in words you'll be sure to understand:

i asked for everything that heather did NOT post.

better?

numbah four: now, i understand that she, and you, are simply exercising your right as members by posting your opinions on the thread. and that is still your right. however, please note for future reference that i do not tolerate stupidity, ignorance, or outright moronic responses either. that's just how i am. and if you or anyone else here has a problem with anything i have said, or will say, bring it.

i'll meet you in the colosseum, baby.

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Strider

02-01-2001, 04:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR> numbah two: take your face out of her crotch long enough to actually read the whole post. yeah, i know, it's difficult for you considering that it's longer than two sentences, but i'm sure you can stick it out.[/quote]

That's too cute.
BUAHAHAH!

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morgana

02-01-2001, 04:12 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:

The special interest groups control everything...why? Because they VOTE.

My solution is to transform every American citizen with a brain into the responsible, enkightened individuals they were meant to be and get rid of the two party system we're dying under.

Send Libertarians to Congress, the Senate, and the White House. The very first inhabitants of those halls were Libertarians, and we need to return to our self-reliant roots, dispose of the Entitlements, and let Americans take care of themselves.

That's my mission statement. Let's get busy.

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hehe. agreed. however, the only major flaw with your argument is the simple fact that NO ONE in our country takes responsibility for anything anymore. everything is someone else's fault. lawsuits are rampant, forcing companies to label everything they carry: caution: liquid inside coffee cup is HOT! children aren't responsible for their behavior, it's the media, it's the movies, it's the music. the first step towards making people feel responsible for their country again would be making them feel responsible for their fucking homes and families.

/rant.

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The Rapist

02-01-2001, 04:23 AM

Funny,
Just listening to all the banter over who said what, who's doing whatever, (or not doing anything) sounds just like the same shit that goes on, all over the world in every political system. Don't look to us to solve the worlds political problems when we blindly fall into the same trap.
Goes to show it ain't the system, it's the people.

**sits back and turns C-SPAN back on**

Princess_Heather

02-01-2001, 04:40 AM

Know what I find ironic?

Everything that everyone fucking whines and bitches about being wrong with the world, soceity and America is everything that is wrong with this God Damn forum.

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The Rapist

02-01-2001, 04:48 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Princess_Heather:
Know what I find ironic?

Everything that everyone fucking whines and bitches about being wrong with the world, soceity and America is everything that is wrong with this God Damn forum.

[/quote]

Is EXACTLY what makes this place so interesting.

" if you want a perfect world where everyone loves and respects each other, here's the site for you. www.barney.com (http://www.barney.com) "

gone~away

02-01-2001, 04:50 AM

it's funny.. this was supposed to be different.. and now people are begging for the brutality that was so common in other places...

fuck....

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Princess_Heather

02-01-2001, 04:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by morgana:

numbah one: don't step up to the plate to pinch hit for someone else. if the princess has a problem with what i have said, let her be the one to bring it.

>>>>>That would be infringing on Zoey's freedom of speech and opinion. Let it flow Zoey, Doll.

numbah two: take your face out of her crotch long enough to actually read the whole post. yeah, i know, it's difficult for you considering that it's longer than two sentences, but i'm sure you can stick it out.

>>>>>>>Speaking of crotches, you seem to have a thorn in yours today... Or are you this unpleasant & childish all the time?

numbah three: "that is what you asked for...isn't it?" that's not what i asked for. i posed a question for all of those who have stated their concern, contempt, and outright hatred of the government to offer alternatives to the standing infrastructure. let me put that in words you'll be sure to understand:

i asked for everything that heather did NOT post.

better?

>>>>>No not better... back to the face in my crotch again... you must have been too busy to read the first four lines of my post. I have no alternatives and I explained why.

numbah four: now, i understand that she, and you, are simply exercising your right as members by posting your opinions on the thread. and that is still your right. however, please note for future reference that i do not tolerate stupidity, ignorance, or outright moronic responses either. that's just how i am. and if you or anyone else here has a problem with anything i have said, or will say, bring it.

>>>>>>>>>>*cough - hipocrite - cough*
Suddenly you have become head justice in deciding what is stupid, ignorant and moronic? How precious, morgana thinks this is HER forum... http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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morgana

02-01-2001, 04:57 AM

i shall see you in the colosseum, miss princess.

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Princess_Heather

02-01-2001, 05:04 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by morgana:
i shall see you in the colosseum, miss princess.

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You are wasting your breath... I've already won.

You won't be getting any more responses from me. I've said what I wanted to say. Why don't you go pick on somebody at your own psycho-social level of development at www.barney.com? (http://www.barney.com?)

*switches on nuisance/bitch ignorer*

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zoey

02-01-2001, 05:15 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Princess_Heather:
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Suddenly you have become head justice in deciding what is stupid, ignorant and moronic? How precious, morgana thinks this is HER forum... http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/rolleyes.gif

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Indeed. RW and Bumox should move out of the way now, it appears we have a new forum owner?

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3MTA3

02-01-2001, 05:52 AM

Zoey...yer a bitch...sorry, but its been established as fact...so stop picking fights with every last person to pass you by...cunt...

Morgana...although I have my own opinions about whats wrong and all that my main change in what we have now would be to institute a true democracy instead of this representative republic type shit we have now...Im thinking Athens...the Goldan Age and all that shit...elections by lot and each mans vote having equal weight...I could expand the idea but its deserving of its own thread...

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Koliedrus

02-01-2001, 02:33 PM

I've noticed that intelligent people tend to shy away from having kids because they don't want to bring them into a world like this.

Bullshit!

They don't want the responsibility of educating their children. The result is that they take a valuable resource away from the gene-pool and contribute to the very problems they complain about.

The same can be said for any governmental position.

Who wants to be the president, kiddies?

Once upon a time it was a revered goal. Now the intelligent people have reverted to lesser aspirations in order to save themselves from public scrutiny.

You want a solution? I may have one for you.

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'nuff said.

Dog Breath

02-01-2001, 02:50 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by 3MTA3:
Zoey...yer a bitch...sorry, but its been established as fact...so stop picking fights with every last person to pass you by...cunt...
[/quote]

Time for the kettle to get out the Scotch Brite.

*insert amusing gif*

Someone needs a hug.

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Feral Automaton

02-01-2001, 05:08 PM

"Everything that everyone fucking whines and bitches about being wrong with the world, soceity and America is everything that is wrong with this God Damn forum." -P_H

I agree, my 2 cents:

Who comprises the population of the forum?

All of us.

If you want a system to change, than change what you control: your own behavior.

Same thing goes for big politics,

If you want the world to change, than stop sitting around playing video games, watching tv, and sucking the consumer cock. Wake from your soma apathy (READ: near militant disassociation with personal responsibility) and take the proverbial reigns.

African saying:

You think that one person can't make a difference? Try sleeping one night in a closed room with a mosquito.

Some links:

<A HREF="http://indymedia.org/" TARGET="blank">Indymedia</A>

<A HREF="http://www.promethea.org/argus/index.html" TARGET="blank">ARGUS</A>

<A HREF="http://protest.net/" TARGET="blank">Protest</A>

<A HREF="http://www.jubilee2000uk.org/" TARGET="blank">Jubilee2000</A>

Etc.

Now go do stuff...

King Bastard

02-02-2001, 01:34 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Feral Automaton:
[B
If you want a system to change, than change what you control: your own behavior.

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And that is why I've done my best to get along in a civil manner with all of you, even those whom I have bumped heads with in the past.

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VenoM

02-02-2001, 05:26 AM

/me noticed that his 2 cents just rolled right into the gutter, then he slowly walks away, yelling "if u need me, i'll be in the D&D side of the site, free p0rn there!!!!" http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

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Cruise Director

02-02-2001, 05:39 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by morgana:
 my question to you is:

alright then, what would YOU do differently?


[/quote]

When I become World Dictator.......
( It's a start to a good platform.)

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Feral Automaton

02-02-2001, 06:03 AM

"/me noticed that his 2 cents just rolled right into the gutter, then he slowly walks away, yelling "if u need me, i'll be in the D&D side of the site, free p0rn there!!!!" -VenoM

I forgot a link that is integral to ALL protest movements:

<A HREF="http://www.sublimedirectory.com" TARGET="blank">Real Politik</A>

Bumox

02-02-2001, 06:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Koliedrus:
I've noticed that intelligent people tend to shy away from having kids because they don't want to bring them into a world like this.

Bullshit!

They don't want the responsibility of educating their children. The result is that they take a valuable resource away from the gene-pool and contribute to the very problems they complain about.

The same can be said for any governmental position.

Who wants to be the president, kiddies?

Once upon a time it was a revered goal. Now the intelligent people have reverted to lesser aspirations in order to save themselves from public scrutiny.

You want a solution? I may have one for you.

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'nuff said.[/quote]

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Minimaul

02-02-2001, 06:33 AM

I like fish sticks. And vaginas. I also like long walks in the park holding hands with my favorite Disney character . I also love Unicorns and rainbow's. I love to eat dinner on the beach while the sun sets. And I love to ass rape gymnist.

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Bumox

02-02-2001, 06:45 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Minimaul:
I like fish sticks. And vaginas. I also like long walks in the park holding hands with my favorite Disney character . I also love Unicorns and rainbow's. I love to eat dinner on the beach while the sun sets. And I love to ass rape gymnist.

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Did you say vaginas?

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Koliedrus

02-02-2001, 01:46 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
Koliedrus, that looks suspiciously like MY face on that moving target. Please, my friend, spare me the temporal and spatial dislocation of looking at myself through my own crosshairs.

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I hadn't considered the resultant psychological consequences of that photo. My apologies http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif

To lessen the perceived magnitude of my post, I've rallied together a group of potential candidates
HERE (http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/Forum4/HTML/000106.html) .

Pardon my twisted humor. After Mrs. Kol saw the post and finished chuckling, she suggested therapy http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif

I felt like playing today so I did http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Bishop

02-02-2001, 02:03 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Minimaul:
I like fish sticks. And vaginas. I also like long walks in the park holding hands with my favorite Disney character . I also love Unicorns and rainbow's. I love to eat dinner on the beach while the sun sets. And I love to ass rape gymnist.

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"I like fish sticks. And vaginas."

Uhm. Say that out loud. It sounds like "I like fish dicks. And vaginas." hehe

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Koliedrus

02-02-2001, 03:42 PM

Yup, Bishop's mind twists like a triple-jointed Swedish centerfold on acid.

Fish sticks will be difficult for me to injest from now on.

I'll be laughing too hard to swallow http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Oh god..... Tartar sauce!!!

MuffyTheVampyreLayer

02-03-2001, 01:03 PM

The Bill of Rights

Article I - Free Speech and Privacy

The government shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech, of the press, of electronic or optical communication or of any other form of communication or expression; or restricting the right of an individual to petition the government for a redress of grievances; or respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free or non-exercise thereof; or requiring an individual to possess the means of identifying himself, unless he may be employed on the public payroll, or may be casting his vote, whereupon identification shall be required in the polling booth only.

Article II - Right to Self-Defence Against the Initiation of Force or Fraud

The right of an individual to preserve, protect and defend his life, liberty and property, or that of any other party subject to the initiation of public or private force or fraud, and to organise himself into private militia for these purposes, shall not be infringed.

Article III - Right to Repudiate a Government in Rebellion

The right of an individual to organise the overthrow of a government initiating force against its citizens shall not be infringed; and a member of the Armed Forces, private militia, intelligence, or police may disobey any order which conflicts with the rights and liberties eternally enshrined in the Bill of Rights and Bill of Due Process.

Article IV - Property Rights

The right of an individual to be secure in his person, home, papers, effects, reputation, intellectual property and other properties, against unreasonable searches and seizures or arbitrary arrest and detention, shall not be infringed, and no warrants shall issue but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the person or things to be seized; and no member of the Armed Forces, militia, intelligence or police shall be quartered in any house or property without the consent of the owner; and no individual shall be deprived of rights, liberties or properties without due process of law; nor shall private property ever be taken compulsorily for public use.

Article V - Right of Self-Ownership

The government shall make no law restricting the right of an individual to take his own life or to have his own life taken, if sufficient evidence of his informed consent has been provided in advance or at that time; and it shall make no law requiring an individual to be medically treated or undergo medical experiments, unless he presents an objective threat to the rights and liberties of other individuals, whereupon he may be confined at home, or if he still presents a threat, confined elsewhere or treated, but not experimented on, in an hospitable place; and government shall make no law restricting the right of an individual to ingest substances or to participate in practices which may or may not cause ill health or injury, provided such actions contravene none of the rights and liberties of other individuals eternally enshrined in the Bill of Rights and Bill of Due Process.

Article VI - Free Association

All interaction between adult individuals shall be voluntary and any voluntary association of individuals shall be deemed to have the rights of the individuals comprising it.

Therefore the government shall make no law restricting the right of an individual peaceably to assemble or to join together in marriage or friendly association; or requiring an individual to join, contribute to, be registered or be enrolled with any association; or establishing a monopoly and otherwise restricting the number or nature of businesses; or requiring an individual to join any branch of the Armed Forces, private militia, intelligence or police.

And while the government itself shall discriminate only on the basis of merit, it shall make no law restricting the right of an individual to discriminate on any basis whatsoever.

Article VII - No Compulsory Taxation

The government shall extract no compulsory tax or involuntary contribution of any kind from any citizen for any purpose whatsoever.

Article VIII - Free Trade, Investment and Migration

The government shall make no law regulating commerce, investment or migration; but the government may regulate the immigration of any individual who has aided or given comfort to the enemy in any war or revolution respecting the establishment of the Constitution.

Article IX - Sound Money

The government shall make no law in respect of the establishment of a central bank, monetary authority or currency of exchange, or to otherwise require the coining, printing or use of money; and any action by the government to purchase debt or equity of companies or trusts, or to purchase or speculate in land, buildings and other properties located in the Republic is expressly prohibited.

Article X - Rights Held in Trust

Nothing in this Bill shall be construed as permitting activities which can be shown beyond reasonable doubt to destroy the potential of a child to become an adult with full rights and liberties eternally enshrined in the Bill of Rights and Bill of Due Process. Subject only to this constraint, parents and legal guardians shall have full freedom to raise their children as they see fit; equally, they shall be deemed responsible for the actions of their children.

The age of independence shall be deemed by law, but the courts may deem an earlier age on application of the child, if the child can demonstrate its independence.

The Bill of Due Process

Article A - Treason

Treason against the citizens and permanent residents of the Republic shall consist only in levying war against them, or in giving aid and comfort to an enemy which shall pose an objective threat.

Article B - Arrest and Detention

Every individual shall enjoy, and shall be informed of, the right to know the reason for his arrest or detention; to remain silent; to consult and instruct a lawyer of his choice before questioning without delay; to have a lawyer of his choice present with him during questioning; if he cannot afford this lawyer, to have one appointed for him; to the writ of habeas corpus so that a court shall determine the validity of his arrest or detention without delay; to have the assistance of counsel and interpreters for this determination; to be released immediately if his arrest or detention is not valid; and if he is arrested or detained, to be charged promptly or to be released immediately.

Article C - Charge and Depositions

Any individual who is charged with an offence shall enjoy and shall be informed of the right to know in detail the nature and cause of the charge without delay; to consult and instruct a lawyer; to have the assistance of counsel and interpreters for his defence; to have sufficient time and facilities to prepare a defence; and to be brought before a court without delay.

And no individual shall be held to answer for an imprisonable offence unless a High Court judge decides there is a case to answer.

Article D - Criminal and Civil Procedure

In all criminal prosecutions and civil suits, the accused or defendant shall enjoy the right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty or found against; to a fair, speedy and public trial or case, at his election, excepting a trial of impeachment, before either a judge or an impartial jury preferably of the locality wherein the breach, liability or offence shall have been alleged; to be informed in detail of the nature and cause of the allegation; to be presented with the evidence against him; to have the assistance of counsel and interpreters for his defence; to have sufficient time and facilities to prepare and present a defence; and to be present at his own trial or case.

Article E - General Procedure

No individual shall twice face a hearing, inquiry, civil suit or criminal prosecution for the same breach, liability or offence; nor shall face a hearing, inquiry, civil suit or criminal prosecution for a breach, liability or offence which at the time of its alleged commission was not a breach, liability or offence; nor shall be compelled in any hearing, inquiry, suit or trial to be a witness; nor shall be prevented from requesting a witness or examining any witness whose evidence has been brought before the court; nor shall be prevented from appealing a determination, judgement, award, conviction or sentence in a higher court or requesting a judicial review.

And a jury shall be directed that it shall find, in favour of or against and innocent or guilty, the defendant and the accused in accordance with the rights and liberties eternally enshrined in the Bill of Rights and Bill of Due Process; and a judge, jury, commissioner or authority shall be provided with a copy of the Constitution and any supporting documents whatsoever.

Article F - Private Prosecutions and Civil Suits Involving Government

All civil suits involving the government shall be heard in the same manner as civil suits between individuals, and all criminal prosecutions brought by an individual, including a prosecution against the government, shall be heard in the same manner as criminal prosecutions brought by the government; and the right of an individual to bring or defend these proceedings shall not be infringed.

Article G - No Excessive Bail, Excessive Fines or Cruel and Unusual Punishments

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments, including the pain of death, inflicted.

Article H - Asset Forfeiture and Victim Restitution

Private and public property shall not be deemed the proceeds of crime unless the criminal burden of proof is met, nor shall be deemed the award of costs or damages unless the civil burden of proof is met; and the proceeds of crime shall be returned to the victims from whence they came or alternative but equivalent restitution enforced.

Article I - Finding of Fact and Mistake

Judges may repair to the traditional precedents of common law, equity and admiralty law where appropriate and create new precedents, provided all these precedents shall be consistent and shall not conflict with the rights and liberties eternally enshrined in the Bill of Rights and Bill of Due Process; and no fact tried by a judge or jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the Republic than according to these rules; and if an individual shall mistakenly be convicted by an error of fact, he shall speedily and appropriately be either pardoned by a Commission of Inquiry, without restriction on his right to a retrial, be retried or have his conviction overturned, and a Commission of Inquiry shall be established to investigate the miscarriage; and he shall receive public compensation without delay.

Article J - Rights Suspended

Every individual who shall be lawfully incarcerated or declared legally and medically insane shall enjoy only those rights and liberties eternally enshrined in Articles III, IV, V, VII, IX and X of the Bill of Rights and in the Articles of the Bill of Due Process; and in respect of this individual, the government shall make no law requiring the recording or disclosure of the contents of any communication and restricting the right of the individual to encrypt this communication, excepting communication to, from and within his place of incarceration; and no law restricting the right of the individual to petition the government for a redress of grievances; and no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free or non- exercise thereof or requiring the observance of any religious custom, including that of any indigenous or local culture; and no law requiring the individual to join any branch of the Armed Forces, private militia, intelligence or police.

And any individual declared legally and medically insane may make a final appeal against this declaration before a panel of experts, which shall be composed of five individuals drawn from reputable institutions.

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