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King Bastard
12-27-2000, 06:49 AM
Wow... Most people say the dislike chtistmas, but you REALLY say you dislike christmas!! I can see your point in all this tho, it was a hard choice to make about whether or not to lie to my son about jolly ole St. Nick, but we did. Reason being, I didnt want to strip him of a part of his childhood, in trade for sights and thoughts he can have as a grown person. I'm sure this makes little sense to some of you, but there you have it. My big problem with theses holidays is the fact that I no longer spend them with my son. Makes it hard to get "into the spirit".... but seeing other kids smiling can help.
Zombie
12-27-2000, 11:40 AM
Finding out that there is no Santa is a rite of passage. My oldest daughter has just found out earlier this year (actually soon after Xmas of last year) that I am really Santa. My youngest daughter still believes. This gives my oldest daughter a chance to share in the "grown-up conspiracy," and it makes her feel good that we share the secret. She went out of her way this year to make comments to her sister that would propogate the belief. It was beautiful to behold, actually.
There's nothing wrong in letting kids be kids. Soon enough they will find out that there is no magical fat dude, and find instead there is a teeming pool of predators called "merchants." Let the kids have their fantasies while they can, there is plenty of time to be jaded later. Plus it's excellent fodder to screw with your kids. I personally tell my kids that I went to college with Santa and that he owes me 25 bucks. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif
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The face of a child can say it all, especially the mouth part of the face. - Jack Handy
MuffyTheVampyreLayer
12-27-2000, 08:14 PM
I smell a rand. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/wink.gif
As much as your rantings make sense Rogue, I still think there is nothing wrong in keeping the illusion alive for kids. Plus the wrath of Santa makes a great threat to incite good behaviour during the school holidays.
Mr. Snrub
12-29-2000, 10:17 AM
Being the total rationalist i am, i'm not prepared to make exceptions to kiddies on the grounds of their immaturity. What others see as "cute" i see as a failing that needs to be corrected. Innocence and ignorance are essentially the same thing.
I guess i'm just no good with kids. But my little cousins worship me - perhaps their is hope for the world and they appreciate my no bullshit ways.
Or maybe i'm just being conceited. you decide.
The Rapist
12-30-2000, 06:23 AM
To each his own. History shows that we repeat our mistakes if we do not learn from our experience. It is fine and dandy for kids to grow up believing in a kindly old man who dispenses gifts to those who are good. No responsability necessary. I find that these kids often grow up to get very emotionally involved in our political process whereby they look to our "candidates" as potential benefactors to shower them with the gifts of their office: Tax cuts, Universal health care, more jobs, retirement through social security.
Isn't it funny when we curse the bastard for not following through with these promises, only to look for the next "best candidate". Wouldn't it be grand if we taught our kids to enjoy the majic, but remember that there's truely no free lunch.
"fantasy is ok so long as you live in reality"
MuffyTheVampyreLayer
12-30-2000, 07:45 AM
I still remember the magic of christmas as a child, and that amazing feeling of excitement and anticipation, staying awake as long as I could in the hopes of seeing santa... it was a magical feeling, and not one I want to deny Tarryn.
My parents split up on christmas eve when I was 4, the christmas thing made it easier to cope with, in fact, I forgot about it until about 3 weeks later when I realised that I had not seen the old goat in a while. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/eek.gif
King Bastard
12-30-2000, 08:35 AM
And that is part of the quandry that this falls into. I had wondered how I would answer the question of "What is a shooting star dad?"
do I tell him that it's a bit of space debris...
or do I say that it is a thing to wish upon?
how can I deny my son the right to be a kid? To be a creature filled with wonder and delight and the sites and sounds that this life can offer? I have become quite the jaded bitch. But why should I impose that upon him? If it lets him feel a bit of wonder, a bit of the.. magic (for lack of a better word) that life has in it, then I would be quite the shithead for ruining that. but then again, I dont want to raise a fool, we have far too many of them to deal with as it is.....
6 in one hand... a half dozen in the other. That being said, I opt to give him the feeling of magic, if and when I can.
Koliedrus
12-30-2000, 09:22 AM
We call the Santa thing "Santa Clown".
No need to destroy a myth completely when it's so much fun. We just altered it a bit.
When I was a sprat, Father Christmas walked from house to house and was followed by Beelzebub. The good children got presents. The bad were carried off to hell.
I TURNED OUT NORMAL, DAMN YOU!!!!
*snarl*
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