1/17 Daily Meditation

[Faceplant]

<u>The Old Mind is Bound by Authority</u>
is it possible for a mind that has been so conditioned - brought up in innumerable sects, religons, and all the supersitions, fears - to break away from itself and thereby bring about a new mind?...the old mind is essentially the mind that is bound by authority. no authority in the legalistic sense; but by that word, authority as knowledge, authority as experience, authority as the means of finding security and remaining in that security, outwardly or inwardly, because, after all, that is what the mind is always seeking - a place where it be secure, undisturbed. such an authority may be the self-imposed authority of an idea or the so-called religious idea of god, which has no reality to a religious person. an idea is not a fact, it is a fiction, god is a fiction, you may believe in it, but still it is a fiction. but to find god you must completely destroy the fiction, because the old mind is the mind that is frightenend, is ambitious, is fearful of death, of living, and of relationship; and it is always, consciously or unconsciously, seeking permanency, security.

[SisterTaffy]

Faceplant, dear, I'm not sure whether I'm supposed to rebuke you or applaud. Let me ask my husband and get back to you.

(time lapse of at least three minutes)

All right, the way my husband tells me to see it (and being a submissive woman as I should be according to Baptist teachings, his word is the final say) is that you've opened a very deep topic here. I suppose you could say that a mind which has been conditioned to think one way can be reprogramed to think another. That works both ways though.

A closed minded person can open their soul to acceptance and tolerate the differences in others. Does this happen very often in religion? Not very.

Speaking strictly rhetorically mind you, say someone was raised a certain religion. We'll say Southern Baptist for example sake. They were raised to fear the homosexual, the Jew, the Catholic, the Wiccan, the African American, and anyone else who did not share the same beliefs or look the same that they did. Then one day their mind is opened to the realization that all are equal in one sense or another.

Naturally, there are still mindless fools in any race, religion, national origin, sexual orientation that they will dislike. But only because that person is stupid and not their skin, race, etc... They have become enlightened and chances are will stay that way.

Of course, that goes against everything Sister Taffy was taught from early on in the Baptist church. And if you were ever a Baptist then you know that changing your mind is a sin! So yes, minds can change but it opens a porthole to wickedness and sin.

I need to pray about this.



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I am the Foremost Authority On All Things Biblical (http://www.sistertaffy.com) . Just ask Jesus, He'lll tell you.

[Faceplant]

RW...i plan to have one daily..or every other day, if thats cool.

Sister...i deeply apreciate you reply. i understand what your coming from, and to a degree, agree with you.

what my thought was about was not mearly changing your mind. it was about getting rid of the authority that taught you to think, and sprout your own thoughts and beliefs.

i.e.
a child is born into and raised in a stong aryan family, with deep KKK ties...he is raised to hate blacks, jews, etc..

he grows up to love all, and NOT view the world as his parents did.

where did it come from?


the old mind, taught to you or whoever is always seeking praise, a given from the teacher mind.

[SisterTaffy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Faceplant:
RW...i plan to have one daily..or every other day, if thats cool.

Sister...i deeply apreciate you reply. i understand what your coming from, and to a degree, agree with you.

what my thought was about was not mearly changing your mind. it was about getting rid of the authority that taught you to think, and sprout your own thoughts and beliefs.

i.e.
a child is born into and raised in a stong aryan family, with deep KKK ties...he is raised to hate blacks, jews, etc..

he grows up to love all, and NOT view the world as his parents did.

where did it come from?


the old mind, taught to you or whoever is always seeking praise, a given from the teacher mind.[/quote]

Sometimes I tend to wander off track. You know how it is...praying between every other word and all...Amen Daddy Jesus....where was I?

Oh yes,

Certainly people can change and I feel that it comes from being exposed to a different environment than that from which they were raised. Of course they need the common sense to open their eyes and see in front, back, and beside them, but then that "mind" will be opened to new ideas and thought.

Can they leave the old mind behind and start anew? Ridding themself of that authority that made them that way in the first place can be difficult for some people. IF the do choose to release old bondage it can be either be in a complete isolated manner or, and preferably, "my God have been really been so one-sighted let me try and open the eyes of the authority that blinded me in the first place" manner. Am I still off track?

There are some people who will never change. There are some who pretend to change but still harbor ill feelings. And then there are those who really change and make a career out of mocking the environment (authority?) they were raised in, in the "my God have been really been so one-sighted let me try and open the eyes of the authority that blinded me in the first place" manner.

Of course that person would be a spawn of SATAN because we all know Jesus only loves a closed mind.

BTW--I like the idea of your 1/17 Daily Meditation.

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I am the Foremost Authority On All Things Biblical (http://www.sistertaffy.com) . Just ask Jesus, He'lll tell you.

[This message has been edited by SisterTaffy (edited 01-17-2001).]

[This message has been edited by SisterTaffy (edited 01-17-2001).]

[Faceplant]

sister, dont get me wrong...you werent off the track to begin with.. i was just re stating so it was clearer in my mind.

explain...jesus only loves a closed mind.


i view that as, a closed mind is a person who will not allow new things and thoughts into their minds.

[SisterTaffy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Faceplant:
sister, dont get me wrong...you werent off the track to begin with.. i was just re stating so it was clearer in my mind.

explain...jesus only loves a closed mind.


i view that as, a closed mind is a person who will not allow new things and thoughts into their minds.[/quote]

One day Jesus is gonna swoop down and he is gonna pick up all of the Christians (Baptists) and take us to glory! Hallylooya! The ones left behind are going to be the free thinking feminists, LIEberals, DEMONcrats, and those who open their minds to SIN and accepting the sins of others. They will live for seven years under the reign of the ANTI-CHRIST and then HELL will split wide open and they will all drop down below into the flames for eternity.

I sent you a PM (prayer message) in hopes that you won't be left standing on the ground as I am gently lifted into the sky. If you are you will see a little message on the bottom of my Ferragmo pumps that reads:

"I'm going to Heaven and you aren't". I pray you never see those shoes, dear.



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I am the Foremost Authority On All Things Biblical (http://www.sistertaffy.com) . Just ask Jesus, He'lll tell you.

[Faceplant]

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[Mr. Snrub]

Here we're talking about the difference between the conscious and unconscious. While you are able to control your conscious mind effectively, your unconscious is much more intractible: For example, phobias. I had a phobia about things touching my eyes - this was a problem when i got contact lenses. Although i knew intellectually there was no danger, my unconscious, trained by an unfortunate experience when i was young of something getting caught in my eye causing pain for 4 days, made me nervous and fearful despite my best efforts to control it.
The parallel here is that experiences in our past do indeed affect more than our conscious way of acting - instinct can indeed be learned and trained. As such, indoctrinated ways of behaving and seeing things are hard to shake off, because they begin to intrude into your subconscious and begin to happen automatically, like what happens when you learn to ride a bike or drive a car, although in the beginning it requires conscious concentration to be able to perform these tasks, eventually it becomes automatic.
however, these things can be overcome. They are learned by simple repitition of experience, so they can be replaced if you repeatedly force yourself to behave in a different way. I overcame my phobia with simple force of will, and eventually, due to constantly putting in contact lenses, i lost my phobia for the most part. It is to a certain extent still there: things in your subconscious cannot be "unlearned", only replaced.
So, to overcome earlier indoctrination, simple force of will in changing your own behaviour can do a lot. However, it will always be there to some extent. Our behaviour is shaped by ALL of our experience, for better or for worse.

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