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Skywalker

06-13-2001, 03:45 AM

here it is...

write me some paragraphs of what you think makes the U.S. and Canada stink?... what's wrong with our dual societies?

think up some good shit here.. nice and energetic... do it when you're in a baaad mood and you hate the world.. what are some problems with our society?

i'm thikning here... hmmm what do i mean?
example
-how come some kids grow up being made fun of and because of this they get so down they don't even think they deserve to live? (and end up shooting people)
-franchises, and tends..?
-coorporate shams?
-problems with "diversity"?
-making ugly/poor people feel worthless?
-think up some of your own

i want this like it's an essay for an exam..
RW, entertain me please, you strike me as being good at this sort of thing..

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King Bastard

06-13-2001, 04:01 AM

I'll go one better than to look at 2 countries, let's have a look at the world.

We've come a long way from jabbing each other to death with sticks. We've figured ouit that true pain comes from those that are held close to us, not the enemy banging at the castle walls. To get to know a person, befriend them, and have them turn your world on it's ear is far more a killing blow than to eat a slug from a gun.
but's it's something we're so damned good at.

Now, I'm just as much to blame fo rthis as anyone else is. I've also tried to refine my skill in this survival art. Was a time when I played it with the best of them. Until I lost. The really comical thing about the nature of the human animal is that we have the ability to stop and take a look around, but a great many of us shrug off the gift. Or, mayhap this to be worse still, we grow apathetic to the insight gleaned from this ability. We care more for the shiny car than we do for the feeling of the beating heart of a loved one resonating thru our chest. We care more about the job, than it's ultimate purpose. We care about all the wrong things.

And I do it too.

We bitch, we scream, we cry, we lament things lost. We get so caught up in the despair that we fail to see the joy of things. As much as I loathe my ex wife for all the pain, I can still allow myself the bittersweet memory of her touch. This may be a bad thing, but I hold onto feelings like those, in an effort to remain human. These days a person smiles at a kid having a fun time running around, just being a kid, that person is looked at as a threat first, and a human appreicating a moment of childhood revisted third.

Yes, I'm rambling on here, one large walkabout with no real point at all other than to say that we really need to get back to taking a look around from time to time. not just for the next big menace either, but for the next ray of hope.

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Deadpool

06-13-2001, 04:05 AM

Oh no, no more USA vs Canada please

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Skywalker

06-13-2001, 04:55 AM

DP, read KB's post than you'll learn that what you said isn't what i'm looking for...

IT'S NOT ABOUT CANADA VS. THE U.S. PEOPLE..

what is wrong with our society from YOUR point of view? it's just a question

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MAC

06-14-2001, 12:50 AM

In a nutshell.

ME.

I'm what's wrong.
I refuse to accept an education from the system.
I won't do what's necessary to move myself up the social or economic ladder.
I refuse to accept the religions and politics utilized and manipulated by others.
And I especially can't handle the fact that diverse and independant people make decisions everyday to change the world and all those decisions affect me somehow.

I am at fault for the lies that are told.
For the misdirection.
Its not misdirection its the truth from their point of view and I won't accept it.
I want to hear something different and see something different.
But no one else can give it to me.
I won't let them.
I believe it can work based on simple principles and that everyone can follow those simple principles with out hurting me or me hurting them.
I'm wrong.
I believe I can show consideration for others without showing "tolerance"
I believe I can know what I know and accept what I do not know.
I'm wrong.
I think I can own a gun and not hurt someone.
I believe I can have a drink because I want one and not be sick or a danger.
I want to feel like I own something and its mine.
I want to take chances with my future and my paycheck.
I'm wrong.
I think I'm overtaxed and what is taken from me is misused.
I think No one asks me what I think because I'm not a senator or a PHD or a jude or a millionaire.
I think I can't speak as a man.
And I REFUSE TO BE A MINORITY!

I'm wrong.

I'm dead fucking wrong.

I'm the problem.
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MAC

06-14-2001, 12:56 AM

I must be the problem......
Look how out-numbered I am.

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AcidzCraze

06-14-2001, 03:32 AM

I'm going to start by saying, I think one of the problems with society is that people "know" to much, and don't "realize" enough.

For example. We all know that smoking cigerettes causes lung cancer and heart disease. What we fail to realize is, that it causes lung cancer because it fills out lungs with toxins and smoke. It causes heart disease because it increases our blood pressure and our heartrate, in turn, making our heart pump in over-drive. By the time you hit 50, its a little run down and more vulnerable to diseases.

I think of it like over clocking your processor in a sense. It runs faster, but with repercussions such as long-term performance issues, or a shorter life span.

Then, you have people like myself, and everyone who *does* realize this, but choses to indulge in this anyway. This brings me to my next point - self-gratification.

Living in a world of self-gratification, promotes *******ness. It is not money that is the root of all evil, but this hideous thing known as *******ness.

We no longer care about others as we once did.

We rape because we have a boner and haven't gotten laid in awhile. Forget how the victim feels, she/he shouldn't of put herself in that prediciment.

We steal because we see something we want. Forget the owner, they don't matter.

We have affairs because our "needs" aren't met. Forget the spouse, they should of been a mind reader.

We lie to get our way. Just toss the truth out of the way, no one will notice.

We cut people off while driving. Nevermind that everyone else on the road has to be somewhere, its me that matters.

We invade privacy. Shh...Overlook the tears of the person, after all, we deserve to know.

We find it satisfying to use those people around us while neglecting their needs. Once again, its all about "me".

If we want countries, we take them.

If we want to see blood, we call it justice.

We mentally counteract the guilt of our self seeking actions with rationalization. Living life projecting our ideal self into others, prepares us to drown in our facades. 

Edit:I wanted to say, "Damn good topic!"

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Skywalker

06-15-2001, 03:52 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>acidcrazesaid
We invade privacy. Shh...Overlook the tears of the person, after all, we deserve to know. [/quote]

do you believe in "love"? shouldn't the person you love know you're private life?

.. just a question...

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AcidzCraze

06-15-2001, 06:29 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Skywalker:

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>acidcrazesaid
We invade privacy. Shh...Overlook the tears of the person, after all, we deserve to know. [/quote]

do you believe in "love"? shouldn't the person you love know you're private life?

.. just a question...

[/quote]

Whether I believe in love or not is irrelevent (for the record I do). When your in love with someone, there shouldn't be an "intrusion" of privacy. It should be a consenual opening of onesself.

Do you invade a person's privacy if your in love with them? Does love justify that? 

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Vorpal Bunny

06-15-2001, 06:56 AM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by AcidzCraze:
Do you invade a person's privacy if your in love with them? Does love justify that? 
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Makes pretty good justification for the person doing the invading...

And as far as the rest of it goes, AcidzCraze, the only part I take issue with is:

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>We rape because we have a boner and haven't gotten laid in awhile. [/quote]

The same could be said of probably many of the males (and females, minus the "boner" part) on this forum and in society at large, but the streets aren't teeming with rapists. Maybe it's just me, but that chain of logic leads to "frequent, furious masturbation" in my case.

It goes farther than that, I think. One has to be a sociopath, or at least an aspiring one, to gain gratification off of hurting someone else, especially in such a grievous way.

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Skywalker

06-15-2001, 04:22 PM

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Do you invade a person's privacy if your in love with them? Does love justify that? [/quote]

that was a stupid question to ask kind of(my question)... i didn't mean that a loved one should invade another one's privacy.... but the question was,
should you know your loved ones private life? or would you be invading their private life if you were trying to figure shit out for them...?

i dunno i was just stoned and i had to ask this question... and the topic has gone off it's path... i'm an idiot

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