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Koliedrus
04-12-2001, 03:03 PM
Survivors of the Oklahoma City bombing will be allowed to watch Timothy McVeigh being executed next month.

Survivors and members of victims' families will be able to watch on closed-circuit television as McVeigh is executed by lethal injection in Indiana on May 16.

IMHO, I hope they make a videotape, sell copies to the general public and give the profits to the victims' families. I'd buy two.

Koliedrus
04-12-2001, 03:32 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
Too bad Timothy McVeigh had nothing to do with the bombing. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/eek.gif

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Crack your knuckles and put on your analysis hat, Rogue. I brought this up for a reason.

*dangles his pocket-watch*

Show me your mind...

Koliedrus
04-12-2001, 04:14 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
How the bombing was bullshit? Or how McVeigh was railroaded into being a patsy?

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Start with those. Since the execution will be on a "secure closed circuit", the other points need their own threads.

Pretend that you're explaining this to a sibling's offspring. No prior knowledge can be assumed.

Fire away.

Pianomahnn
04-12-2001, 05:22 PM
All hail RW, giver of great facts. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

Very nice, honestly. Stupid gov. Grrrrrr.

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King Bastard
04-12-2001, 05:23 PM
<FONT COLOR="Red">Wait.

Are you honestly of the opinion that executions should NOT be televised? I find that a bit hard to buy. I feel that they would make for a better deterent than a lot of the programs currently in place. The more gruesome, the better.
I could well be fucked in the head for feeling this way, but so be it. All i know is, if I'm not out there commiting all sorts of crimes, I dont see why anyone else should be. And if they do commit crime, I want them dead, depending on the crime they commited. Stealing a magazine from a store; not a capitol offense. Killing a family of 3 because you were drunk behind the wheel; drawn, quatered, and braodcast.</FONT c>

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Koliedrus
04-12-2001, 06:35 PM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
Everyone who's a fucking hypocrite just stand up right now for me, so I can spend my time talking the ones who aren't.

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You'd end up talking to yourself.

Like it or not, we are all fed information via media.

Fact: you are being fed by my words and opinions right here and now. I AM a part of the media, just as you are. Once you took it upon yourself to make your thoughts known to the world, you became part of the machine. What we express today will cascade. Tomorrow will be the same.

I've seen and heard many opinions about the crimes attributed to Timothy McVeigh. Without rehashing the details I will one day have to explain to my children, I'm of the opinion that Tim confessed to his crime.

I'm also of the opinion that the mind that concieved those deaths should be given final rest.

If it wasn't Timothy and Terry, tell me who did it so THEY can die.

I'll watch by choice if it's allowed by the censors (us).

King Bastard
04-12-2001, 06:41 PM
<FONT COLOR="Red">RW, I konw you aint feeling well, so I'll let the hypocrite thing slide..

Let me restate it, I'm all for a person being able to end their own life, on their own terms.

or better yet, I'm all for a person to not get messed about in the taking of their own life. Yes, there should be clinics where you can just "Go Home". And yes, state killings should be made reasily available for public view. A lot of us have joked around about making them pay-per-view events, but all that being cast aside....
I really do believe that if they were broadcast for public comsumption, that a lot off people would think twice before committing the more heinous crimes we as humans are want to commit. Little Johnny wants to take out half the school, but harkens back to last sundays half-time show, where that other kid from Utah was pummeled to death by the families of the kids he killed.
The first few would be rough sailing, but after the 10th one, most sheeple would get the idea.....</FONT c>

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Cruise Director
04-12-2001, 09:40 PM
I vote every single election. It's not my right, it's my DUTY. I give my employees time ON THE CLOCK to go vote if they will do so. I hold a dinner for my 8 to 10 close friends about a month prior to the elections for us to get together and aruge politics and educate those of us who are less inclined to do the research.

About the live execution. I am against it. It has that whole "rubbernecking at a carwreck" feel to it. How long until we spiral down into something similar to Stephen King's "Running Man." Americans don't need that kind of entertainment.

I haven't researched McVeigh enough to judge his innocence or guilt. All I know is that on the day of his execution, I will hug my neices a little tighter; tell them I love them a little louder; and hope that one day such acts of terrorism never happen again and that they may grow up a little more educated and involved than my generation.

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MAC
04-13-2001, 01:10 PM
1) RW, you were right.
500mg of Tetracyclene is alot.

2) My voting history has none existant until recently because I was sick to my stomach of VOTING AGAINST SOMEONE.
Even our local elected officials are on the FED Tit.
Or they're after an inside track to financial elightenment.
Recently I have started researching local candidates and comparing party platforms.
I vote libertarian every chance I get.
But a lot of libertarians pretend to be other things, so its more difficult and you don't get a very clear idea of why they voted as they did on the charts.

Hence teeny weenie voting history.

3)Public Executions: should be PUBLIC Executions.
Not Closed Circuit TV.
Not Televised.
Not buy a ticket and sit in the bleachers.
Public.
And this electric chair and lethal injection shit is a crock,too.
Bring back beheading.
No shit.
One trial, one appeal, one year max.
I'd love to see the parents of a raped and murdered girl standiong next to the parents of the convicted murderer 6 months after it happened in a down pour in he middle of the court house square watching a head fall in a basket.
A lot of people would be concerned with what their kids did after that.
Of course they'd probably just over compensate and restrict the child to the point that they went out and did something bad anyway.


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gone~away
04-14-2001, 05:56 AM
D.. in your rant thread you talk about the people's inability (as a whole) to judge what is good and decent for them

what makes you think that watching someone die isn't just the next big thing when it comes to shock value... howard stern isn't cutting it anymore

i find the thought of televised execution disgusting and would NOT watch.

(*note* if there were NO doubt.. then i would be for the death penalty.. but even in cases where there IS no doubt.. there can be coincidences beyond control.. and the law being as black and white as it is...

i just cant accept the death penalty as proper...)

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Koliedrus
06-11-2001, 06:55 AM
Stratosphere.

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Time Slipping
06-11-2001, 01:21 PM
RW. And the CIA killed JFK too.......................

yeah right Just cause things don't fit in the box always. Who cares. Everyone needs somebody to hate. And if you have such grave doubts, make a public issue of it.......................

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AcidzCraze
06-13-2001, 02:11 AM
<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Cruise Director:


About the live execution. I am against it. It has that whole "rubbernecking at a carwreck" feel to it. How long until we spiral down into something similar to Stephen King's "Running Man." Americans don't need that kind of entertainment.


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<FONT COLOR="blue">I'll second that. I personally feel that public executions are opening the doorway to heathenistic-entertainment.

When I attended the Renaissance Faire for the first time this year, I was astounded at the "punishment" methods, shown in the tour of the "Dungeon". I had always known about the various torture devices, but as I walked through, it really made me ill to think that these different methods were permitted with glee by the public.

Quite frankly, I think its naive to consider public excecutions civilized.

As we all know, history repeats itself.

I'll quote (or paraphrase) an incrediable book I recently read.

"I'm more civilized because I eat meat (in reference to cannibalism and human meat) out of a can" -"The Wanting Seed" by Anthony Burgess.

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