A question...

[Asmodeus]

Why is it that women can never say what they mean, do what they say, and mean what they say? Hmm?

I was stood up, again, tonight. I was supposed to meet a woman at a certain time and certain place that we bad both agreed upon earlier. Well, she didn't show up.

I am almost afraid to count how many times that has happened.

My question phrased differently: why do women, who supposedly claim to be such proponents of honesty, fail to be burdended with it themselves? And yet I am probably one of the most honest individuals anyone will ever meet and I am the one getting bitched at etc for telling the truth.

Women: say what you mean and mean what you say, please. Instead of the fallacy(phallusy?) of practicing what you preach, we all know how many people do that, why don't you preach what you practice? It sure would alleviate quite a few misunderstandings and annoyances, or is that the point?

Instead of vouching that you are an honest person, be upfront with the truth, that you lie through your teeth. Own up to your shortcomings, even if it means losing face. You would actually be telling the truth. WOW!! What a concept.

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[Bumox]

I do feel your pain.... but the problem isn't with just women....

[zoey]

Everyone just sucks. Men AND women. We should all just die.

/end happy thought

[Asmodeus]

True, but I have never been stood up by a guy. Of course, come to think about it, I have never asked a guy out.

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[Bumox]

Originally posted by zoey:
Everyone just sucks. Men AND women. We should all just die.

/end happy thought

RW Has corrupted you... poor child LOL!!!!

[Mr. Snrub]

hate the way i say to my girlfriend "I'll call you tomorrow at 9pm" and then she acts shcoked when i DO actually call her. She just doesn't expect me to do what i say i will. And i am VISCIOUSLY punctual. The prussian heritage, i suppose. It shits me when people aren;t on time. So when she says she'll call me at a certain time, i plan on it and expect her to call then, and it really gets to me when she calls later and thinks she can get away with a simple flippant "sorry".

On the other hand, she doesn't do it no more. When i get angry, it really shows. People fear my enraged glare. I can put all my anger into my eyes and most people can't take it.

[Rabble Rouser]

I agree with zoey...I'm speaking from my experiences that men lie far more than women. They say you're the kind of girl they've been looking for you, yet vehemently refuse to date you. They say you're beautiful, yet are deathly afraid to say a word to you. STOP FUCKING LYING!!! http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif

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[WhiteDevil]

K. We both lie. We both know we lie. But it doesn't matter, because the sex is good. That is my relationship with my g/f. And we just don't care if we lie to eachother, because we know eachother so well that we know if the other is lying, but we accept that. As long as she doesn't ask me whether i cheated on her (at least, I was told I did, I can't remember, and supposedly if I don't remember it never happened.) But if we break up, we'll get over it, and there are plenty more fish in the pond. So it doesn't matter. Unless you love him/her. Then it get heaps more complicated. You gett a conflict of emotions and interest.

[Rabble Rouser]

Addition to my previous post:

You have no idea how aggravating it is when men say they want their women to be honest. I am and have always been a brutally honest person, and I prefer that people be the same with me. Men HATE honest women! If they liked them, why have I been single my whole life? http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif

Sorry...this shit just pisses me off...so I'm ranting a lot this morning.

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[King Bastard]

The reason, rabble, is that you have encountered nothing but sub-par men so far...

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[zoey]

Originally posted by Rabble Rouser:
Addition to my previous post:

You have no idea how aggravating it is when men say they want their women to be honest. I am and have always been a brutally honest person, and I prefer that people be the same with me. Men HATE honest women! If they liked them, why have I been single my whole life? http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif



Amen! They're all talk and no action. Fuckers.

[Uberwonder]

According to your post, ONE woman stood you up, yet you blame the entire gender for her act.
Has this happened with others or are you taking her act out on the whole of womankind?

[Asmodeus]

Originally posted by Rabble Rouser:
Addition to my previous post:

You have no idea how aggravating it is when men say they want their women to be honest. I am and have always been a brutally honest person, and I prefer that people be the same with me. Men HATE honest women! If they liked them, why have I been single my whole life? http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif

Sorry...this shit just pisses me off...so I'm ranting a lot this morning.



I could ask the same question Rabble: if women like honest men, why have I been single my whole life? Welcome to syphillization. The rules don't apply here.

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[Asmodeus]

Originally posted by Uberwonder:
According to your post, ONE woman stood you up, yet you blame the entire gender for her act.
Has this happened with others or are you taking her act out on the whole of womankind?

My post, stating I had been stood up "again"...get the connection? The actual number is upwards of 30 women. That is not a subject I care to think of often.

Women say they all want an honest man, I beg to differ. It must be something to do with having read too many romance novels or something. They want the fictitious perfection, not reality.

When I am honest, which is always, I get labeled as a racist, chauvinist, hypocrit, or just mean. I pull no punches. I speak the truth, very bluntly. When someone asks me how their hair looks, I will tell them. If I don't like it, I will tell them. Then I get bitched at for lack of tact. Excuse me? I asnwered your goddamn question and I am the bad guy for stating the truth. Don't ask me a fucking question if you don't want an answer.

Nah, the truth is subject to opinion, always has, always will. People, men and women alike, say they want the truth, most people do not. The kicker is actually finding someone who does want the unadulturated truth. In my frame of mind: does that woman exist?

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[zoey]

Originally posted by Asmodeus:

When I am honest, which is always, I get labeled as a racist, chauvinist, hypocrit, or just mean.
You're just an asshole. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net/tongue3.gif

[gone~away]

i like to think i'm an honest person..

but brutal honesty sometimes hurts more than a little lie..

i've never stood a girl up (even if i desperately wanted to) but i can't say i wont in my lifetime...

the same for most women... give us all a break...

the world is too complicated to swear an oath to honesty, sorry

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[Uberwonder]

OK, just asking as you didn't give numbers of whether it was other women.
Did you call her (or any of them) and ask what happened?
If it has been thirty times, you may want to take a look at yourself rather than them. That isn't anything said to be shitty, just my opinion. The fact thaqt you come in here asking a question as you did and the way you are resonding tends to point to your attitude as being a potential problem.
Just trying to help.

[Asmodeus]

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You're just an asshole. http://cwm.ragesofsanity.com/s/net/tongue3.gif

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I say, I say, I say, I resemble that remark.

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[Asmodeus]

Originally posted by Uberwonder:
The fact thaqt you come in here asking a question as you did and the way you are resonding tends to point to your attitude as being a potential problem.
Just trying to help.

You missed my point. I know I am an ass. It does not bother me. But, the quirks of my personality and the effects there-of were not the point I was making here. Re-read the post and my comments. There is another point in here I assure you. Call it a lesson in life.

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[Uberwonder]

Originally posted by Asmodeus:
You missed my point. I know I am an ass. It does not bother me. But, the quirks of my personality and the effects there-of were not the point I was making here. Re-read the post and my comments. There is another point in here I assure you. Call it a lesson in life.



OK, I did. You are trying to make another point and I touched on that in my first reply to you.
Issue- Honesty, not a gender specific issue. People lie, women, men, hermaphrodites(I assume, never met one), by in large, everyone does in some form or another.
You seem to have had some rather bad luck with the women you met but your posts insinuate that ALL women are like that instead of just the ones you have met.
Not true, you just haven't met her yet. I live with a woman that is what you seem to be looking for (forget it). She never lies about anything, it just isn't in her. It does make life easy to live in an enviroment without having to bullshit.
Personally, I'm too fucking lazy to lie. You have to remember all the bullshit so you don't fuck up and tell a different story later, too much work.
Anyway, I wish you luck in finding what you seek. Keep looking.

[Asmodeus]

My post was not intended to insinuate that all women lie etc., though, upon reflection, it does read as such. My bad and apologies where needed. And yes, I have bad luck with women.

But, you did get the point. Everyone lies, based on fact and fiction and experience.

I cannot remember who posted it right at the moment, but they had said that the world is too complicated to pay hedence to honesty, to worship it if you will. Sorry, but that is wrong. There is a trust factor involved. I am not talking about short-term aquaintances that you might meet at a party one night and never see again-situational ethics prevail in that instance, lying is absolved, it is a given. But, with friends? Lying is a hanging offense. If you lie to a friend what is to say that your friend will not lie back to you? Lie to me once, I will forgive you. Lie to me again and I will smack you in the back of the head for morality's(propriety's) sake. Just don't ask what the third offense is...

Lying is the main cause for friendships to fail. RW knows my attitude toward this line of reasoning, we both lost someone very close to us a long time ago, and we both know the true meaning to the word friendship. And, we both know the true nature of a lie, what it does, and what it can result in.

I think I fucked my point up all to hell. Oh well, cronic foot in mouth disease strikes again, that and I am on my second fifth of the night. Introspection, concentrative thought and alcohol do not exactly mix very well, I am noticing at the moment.

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