Arguing for a One World Government

[Spooky]

That title got you attention did'nt it http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/biggrin.gif

I know you are all gonna shout at me but I think that One World Government is inevitable, and I want to say why, and also call for you to support the possibilyt but on yours and our terms.

Ok, look. I personally believe that a few ghundred years from now we will have harnessed new energies and technologies that will allow us to leave this planet easily. I also believe that in say a millennia we will have made contact with another itelligent civilisation in space. I don;t think we have had a contact yet, but I don't disbelieve that it is likely in the coming future.

Now, as far as I am conerned there are no borders on this planet from space, adn when that day comes that we go out of this planet and have contact with others willw e do it as the human race from the planet earth. Not as europeans, or americans, but as humans.

So we have to accept that governace will inevitable encompass the globe when we reacgh a point in human progress that demands it through necessity.

I want to embrace this potential and think about how we can make it work so that their is no deficit of democracy, liberty or freedom. Surely we as the embracer of the future in terms of the Internet should be working out how this world governace could work?

My defense rests

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I am not expecting to change anything by this post other than awareness. Please do not take anything I say as fact, I am only relaying opinon of limited sources, who themselves know nothing and thus should also be ignored as heresay and could never be admissable in a court of law.

[D_I]

Hippie.

;)

[Mr. Snrub]

I believe the problem people have is the perception that World Government will inevitably be run by a bunch of damn foreigners!

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[Dog Breath]

One world under an iron clad constitution with a bill of rights similar to the US would be OK. Human nature precludes it. The next Napolian is always just around the corner waiting for his shot.

City governments dont preclude county or state or federal. I don't think global government is needed or inevitable. I really don't think it can exist. It is a pie in the sky liberal dream but No way the russians, chinese, middle east, europe and americas could sit at a table and make any sort of decision. It is a pipe dream unless it is executed as a horribly oppressive dictatorship that expends 90% of it's resources keeping the lid on the jar. That couldn't last long.

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Woof.
If it's so sick, why are you laughing?
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[Skeet]

I think if I hide in Canada far enough away, I'll be alright. I hate government in general. My tribe, your tribe.

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[MAC]

I see your point.
I hope you have a perspective on the timeline, tho.

Check it out.
For (lets say) 10,000 years we have had relativly stagnant human socialisation.
We we're geographically isolated.
We figured out how to survive and then flourish WHERE WE WERE.
Our superstitions turned into religions.
Our understanding turned into science and math.
But we maintained our isolation as a whole, because we had what we needed WHERE WE WERE.
The last 400 years has destroyed all those boundries.
WHY?
We traveled, explored, and found we could do better by utilizing the best of each civilisation.
One has a good meat source.
One has a wheat that grows with minimal water. Whatever.
We took the best and utilized it.
We still are.

Now the source of our strife.
We suffer at our own hands because we designed our religions and morals with an isolationist clause. NO one of another religious/moral code can be right. For your beliefs to be correct all others must be wrong.
Each sub-species of human being is trying NOT to assimilate.
We want to be our own breed and we want to be THE best breed. We want to be one color or size or shape.

But look around.
We're not.
We're many.
WHEN there is a truely unified world we will be one race. There may be regional variations to accept difference of climate or such. And you know there will be variation based on genetic recombination (even in the face of cloning).
But it won't be like star trek.
One asian, one african, one latina, one european.
It will be one, new, different variation.

WE are already fossils.



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[Mudflap]

<FONT COLOR="Orange">So in the future, the human race will be one big race of mutts? I have thought about this often and we'd probably be better off. It's a shame we can't accept our differences among the various ethnicticities. <--is that a word?</FONT c>

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[Dog Breath]

I disagree on the thought that race/differences will be removed by blending. Humans are so alike right now it is pathetic. We are like dalmations whom either have 62% of our bodies covered in spots VS those other dalmations who have 65% of their bodies covered in spots. There will always be differences and we will always compare ourselves with others just like a twin brother from Receda is inferior to his identical brother from Grenada Hills.
It would be cool if we all stood on equal footing but that is not our nature.

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If it's so sick, why are you laughing?
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[squee]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by theMAC:
We suffer at our own hands because we designed our religions and morals with an isolationist clause. NO one of another religious/moral code can be right. For your beliefs to be correct all others must be wrong.[/quote]

<FONT face="Trebuchet MS">I suggest you look up the statistics on interbreeding in primarily Catholic countries. Less racially-motivated strife, more interbreeding. This is largely because Catholicism is inclusive and expansionary--we go somewhere, we become assimilated into another culture, ie, when the Incas realized that their religion was incredibly similar to Catholicism, so they brought Catholicism into their house.

We're big into family and togetherness. The end result of what you think of as scientific progress is people alienated from their neighbors, designer drugs, and Zima clear malt.

I'm a biologist by training--I have no problem with science in general but I think that due to various faults in human nature people use it for some fucked up things. Mainly because they don't have a family member to smack them on the back of their head and say HEY! What the fuck do you think you're doing? --In a group of people, they are alone and thus easily twisted and coerced.</FONT f>

[melon]

Spooky, your time frame is unlikely.
its probable that a 1000 years from now we will still be here, at the buttom of the gravity well. sure, the most advanced countries today could possibly create the new technology if they invest in it. but, if you create a one world government and try to bring all countries to the same level of development, youll waste thousands of years on retarded nations like brazil, or el-salvador.

the only way this can be avoided, is by a group of private individuals, who work undercover to provide humanity with its future place in the universe. sure, it may come at a great cost to the el-salvadorians, but history will vidnicate these people.


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[Mr. Snrub]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by squee:
[FONT=Trebuchet MS]This is largely because Catholicism is inclusive and expansionary--we go somewhere, we become assimilated into another culture, ie, when the Incas realized that their religion was incredibly similar to Catholicism, so they brought Catholicism into their house.
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This was after all their priests, royal family, nobility and any of them who indeed looked funny had been garroted right?

And i don't get how sun worship is so incredibly similar to catholicism.

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[MAC]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Mudflap:
<FONT COLOR="Orange">So in the future, the human race will be one big race of mutts? I have thought about this often and we'd probably be better off. It's a shame we can't accept our differences among the various ethnicticities. <--is that a word?</FONT c>

[/quote]

If we accept our differences they will disappear. Evolution counts for expansion and vartiation through branching out, tho.
I'm not saying that we will branch in to be one race. I'm saying something new will emerge and dominate. The old dies the new controls.


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<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Snrub:
This was after all their priests, royal family, nobility and any of them who indeed looked funny had been garroted right?

And i don't get how sun worship is so incredibly similar to catholicism.
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<FONT face="Trebuchet MS">Gold, God, and Glory, right? You are incredibly selective about what historical lessons you question, aren't you? Why would you make it a point to disbelieve some of what your school teaches you, but not all of it...? Seems as if Mama Media is doing most of your education.

In short: the Incas' sun-worship had a lot of elements of the Blessed Virgin / Baby Jesus story in it, which is why Latin Americans put so much faith in Mary (Protestants say it's worship. They think they've made an idol out of Mary and so all Mexicans are going to hell. But, they stress, not just because they are Mexican)...anyway there were a lot of similarities so they incorporated Catholicism into their own religion.

I could probably find some other examples of similar things happening.</FONT f>

[Mr. Snrub]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by squee:
<FONT face="Trebuchet MS">You are incredibly selective about what historical lessons you question, aren't you? Why would you make it a point to disbelieve some of what your school teaches you, but not all of it...? Seems as if Mama Media is doing most of your education.</FONT f>[/quote]

Because... get this... some of what they teach IS true... and some of it... ISN'T. Therefore, i believe some and disbelieve other parts.

I guess i just have problems with a religion whose fundamental teaching is it's wrong to enjoy... well, anything really.

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[squee]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Mr. Snrub:
Because... get this... some of what they teach IS true... and some of it... ISN'T. Therefore, i believe some and disbelieve other parts.

I guess i just have problems with a religion whose fundamental teaching is it's wrong to enjoy... well, anything really.[/quote]

<FONT face="Trebuchet MS">Are we talking about the same religion? You have Catholic monks to thank for inventing beer http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif If you are serious about rejecting Christianity, then you need to know exactly what you're rejecting. Don't confuse me with, say, Mormons or Southern Baptists--I suggest you do some reading.

I am also interested in knowing by what meter you judge what that is taught to you is true, and what is false. There is a simple test I use to determine how comitted people are to learning the truth: Answer the following question.

How many people died in the Holocaust?</FONT f>