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mute
10-19-2005, 02:32 AM
Tell me what you think of it.

example: export/import

Got any ideas yet? Think of more and include the rest of them.

Barbie
11-24-2005, 11:41 PM
Define: Globalization?

mute
11-25-2005, 02:13 PM
Not define, but what your opinion on the whole matter is.

Barbie
11-25-2005, 02:53 PM
I think it is agreed with most tribals when I say that Iam not well read in economics, corporate dealings and in depth government matters.

You're original question was asked on Oct 18, 2005 and I had noticed that you had no responses.

Do you have a response or opinion?

mute
11-26-2005, 06:35 PM
Well I think it's fucked up how the people of Tanzania can't just simply eat the fish they get themselves instead of practically starving. They fish all day, get paid didly squat and the fish get flown to Europe to be sold for a price the Tanzanian people can't afford. I don't understand why they simply can't eat the fish instead of sending it away and starving. And in the meantime the U.N. is trying to send them food, and while waiting they eat the fish heads (and other parts of the fish that the industry deemed uncessary). Everything but the fillet. Why starve? Who cares if the fish plant does't get the fish, eat it yourself! Will they get shot if they do so?

I get this opinion from the documentary I recently (well in October) watched called Darwin's Nightmare.

Some time in the 1960's, in the heart of Africa, a new animal was introduced into Lake Victoria as a little scientific experiment. The Nile Perch, a voracious predator, extinguished almost the entire stock of the native fish species. However, the new fish multiplied so fast, that its white fillets are today exported all around the world.

Huge hulking ex-Soviet cargo planes come daily to collect the latest catch in exchange for their southbound cargo… Kalashnikovs and ammunitions for the uncounted wars in the dark center of the continent.

This booming multinational industry of fish and weapons has created an ungodly globalized alliance on the shores of the world’s biggest tropical lake: an army of local fishermen, World bank agents, homeless children, African ministers, EU-commissioners, Tanzanian prostitutes and Russian pilots.

http://www.coop99.at/darwins-nightmare/

http://www.coop99.at/darwins-nightmare/darwin/html/startset.htm

At other places in Africa, so I've heard, the government will jail, kill, etc. a citizen if they want to use the coa coa beans that grow their for personal use. Because they'd rather outsource, export, sell, etc. all the coa coa beans to make the best profit they can. Mainly Coca Cola. Leaving out their own people in the end to starve and work for practically nothing. This last paragraph of info is all from word of mouth. I could be wrong.

Cruise Director
11-27-2005, 12:03 AM
I look at the growing trade with China. From my own company's standpoint, our imports from the East have grown considerably in the last decade. Once upon a time, the "made in America" label stood for quality and a sense of pride to the person making the purchase. Better production and increased quality from the Chinese have made that sticker almost a non-issue with consumers. 99% of the lights you purchase are made in the East and imported. More and more tool companies are choosing to produce tools over seas because they can be done cheaper, faster and to the same specs (if not better) than what was once produced in America.

America will soon be a nation of 100% imports. Production as we have known it will cease to exist in my grandchildrens' lifetimes.

Escape Artist
11-27-2005, 12:40 PM
they can't eat their product because, i would assume, it's basically their only bargaining chip to receive other goods and services that they are in need of.

if you consume your main export, you just might end up walking around nekkid due to lack of clothes...so to speak.

cruise, i ask this - and it's been a vexing problem for me, since my station in life is probably going to be making widgets for someone else - when this particular area of industry disappears, what will fill the voids? a society based on infinite levels of management isn't much of a society, IMO.

what do you think we will have left?

SimpleSimon
11-27-2005, 06:15 PM
One can see what is coming already, EA. A nation so stratified that the top 1% are 100X as wealthy as the next 5%, who are 50X as wealthy as the next 25%, who are 25X as well off as the next 50%, who are 2 to 5X as well off as the bottom 19%. You, or your g'children, will labor for a poverty level income to provide sevices to your betters. Those who cannot find those jobs will be the underclass from which the state derives its pool of slave labor to operate the only real remaining production facilities in the country, making products for state use.

Escape Artist
11-27-2005, 06:45 PM
serf system again, then, i think.

it is as i feared.

and, y'know, c'est la vie.

as for "betters" - well...a lot of royal throats got cut pretty fast from annoyed people like me.

neither a slave nor a serf, though i will get hanged and paraded for it, i guess. just not my thing.

c'est la vie.

don't much care to work for the masters either.

i suspect i will have to immigrate to, and abuse, a third world nation not living under communist, totalitarian politics.

or i'll die.

k.

gone away
11-27-2005, 09:11 PM
Yay Capitalism!

Won't there come a time when North America isn't producing anything but natural resources (and most of those in Canada, which is why we better start watching our border for tree/water/oil/everything rustlers... oh wait, too late) that everyone will realize that we are but Straw men whose money really is 'no good here' and simply exclude us from trade?

And then eventually WE'LL be Chinindia in this strange never ending ironic circle. :D

Escape Artist
11-28-2005, 06:54 AM
gone away - if i'm right - and usually i am, unfortunately...your country is going to experience just what you guys have all been waiting for for close to two centuries now.

canada will become a semi-superpower.

on the other hand, your parliament might cause you all to self-destruct in a geopolitical maelstrom.