What wrong with a good old water balloon fight?

[skalie]

WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. (Reuters) - A Florida teen-ager who shot one of his favorite teachers between the eyes after being tossed out of school for throwing water balloons was convicted of second-degree murder on Wednesday in a case that stirred protests against trying children as adults........

..........queensbury rules.....if no-ones got a gun, no-one needs a gun.

comments?

[disturbed]

the kids should have been taught by his parents how to control his anger.

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[Pianomahnn]

There are SO many different things to comment on about this...

1. Trying this individual as an adult. If he WAS an adult, he would have adult responsibilities, not be in school, and working a 9-5. Instead he was engaging in a childish act of throwing water balloons, and then shooting his teacher. The trying children as adults thing is getting WAY out of control. And it makes no sense. Damn, there are adults that I am sure steal candy bars, a primarily childish act. So, lets try them in Juvinile court, and give them a slap on the wrist. It's just wrong. And adult is what it says. Someone who has supposedly reached a level of maturity where they can function on their own, etc.

2. 1st degree murder. Well, I can understand how the prosecution wanted this. BUT, what is the point? What does it do to lock away a kid for the rest of his life? IT COSTS TOO MUCH MONEY!! Once locked away, he performs no good service the people. yet we still pay for his food, cloths, room, water, etc. I agree with the 2nd degree murder charges, kind of. As much as I would love to see this kid rehabilitated, I know this wont happen. He's fucked. 20 years in prison, or however long it is will only make him a vicious person, who hates the world, and himself. I wont be surprised if he kills himself before time is up.

3. If no-ones got a gun, no-one needs a gun. The teacher didn't have a gun, so why did the kid need one? It's been said many times before, guns dont kill people, RW kills people. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/tongue.gif, actually, it's people kill people. Which is true. The damn thing doesn't just get up, find someone, and shoot. It takes a person. And the only to stop what is going on is to educate people. Stop spending money saving doomed 3rd world countries, and save things here.

I'm going to bed, I could comment more, but I need the sleep.

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[Billyman]

a lot of today's schools have zero tolerance on every fucking thing. most of the time because of this the punishment doesn't fit crime. this is part of the problem with the form of retaliation kids are taking.

however, this was just plain stupid on the students part. think about it, he was suspended or expelled right. he could have taken it to the school board or something to make a plea. worse case scenario he would have to repeat some classes or do hard time makeup work.

but now he will be where?? in prison.

where did this help his situation? it didn't.

[Billyman]

oh, and as far as trying him as an adult, yes reform school or juvy hall is nothing more than a slap on the wrist.

put him in a cell with Bubba(295 lbs of simi muscular mostly fat black guy) and let Bubba make him his bitch.

[rage]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>1. Trying this individual as an adult. If he WAS an adult, he would have adult responsibilities, not be in school, and working a 9-5. Instead he was engaging in a childish act of throwing water balloons, and then shooting his teacher. The trying children as adults thing is getting WAY out of control. And it makes no sense. Damn, there are adults that I am sure steal candy bars, a primarily childish act. So, lets try them in Juvinile court, and give them a slap on the wrist. It's just wrong. And adult is what it says. Someone who has supposedly reached a level of maturity where they can function on their own, etc.
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I dont agree. I think that if someone KNOWS what they are doing/did is wrong, then they need to accept responsibility for their actions. And Juvy just wont do. Neither will 20 years. Life in prison, where I hope he is butt-raped daily, is what he deserves. Anyone who does such vicious acts for no reason at all, doesn't deserve to live, or to die...they deserve fucking torture, and to teeter inbetween life and death.

Hmm..ok, so maybe the above is a little harsh..I hate sensless acts of murder and such.

But to think that someone shouldn't be tried as an adult because they are a teen, or because they aren't mature? that is ridiculous. I know adults more immature than some teens I know. I know adults less responsible than some teens I know. If the person knows/knew what they did was wrong, they should be tried as an adult. They will have to accept responsibility at some point. What better time then the present?

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[Skeet]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by skalie:

if no-ones got a gun, no-one needs a gun.

comments?[/quote]

But someone will ALWAYS have a gun.


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[Wise Womcat]

Um...the gun thing. If no one had a gun, people would start killing with knives. What would you do then? Take away all knifes? Then they would kill with forks. What then? Then they would start killing with their hands. Ya gonna take them away too? It's not the weapon that kills people. The weapon just makes it faster and less painful. So really, they should just give everyone a bigger gun, that way the people they are killing don't feel it at all.

Good plan huh?

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[VenoM]

<FONT COLOR="Red">waterballoon fight at school? wtf was this kid smoking? blah, i think he should have been put on deathrow, eye for a fucking eye, liver, spleen, etc. one less "killer" on the streets if u ask me.</FONT c>

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[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Wise Womcat:
Um...the gun thing. If no one had a gun, people would start killing with knives. What would you do then? Take away all knifes?
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I'm not athelete, but I can out run a knife easlier than a gun, at least hopefully as far as the nearest iron bar.

I can remember walking out of 'Natural Born Kilers' (for the second time), and having an urge to kill the poor guy in a uniform who was vacuuming the carpet.

If I'd had a gun on me I might have just shot the poor bugger.

You know that little noise in the back of your throat, it's a laugh innit?

Guns and schoolkids don't mix, guns and morons don't mix, whether the police should all be allowed to carry guns is also an issue, especially the more moronic boys in blue.

I notice all the good old boys are leaving this thread well alone, it has been done to death before, respect.

[Pianomahnn]

I can outrun a bullet. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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[Dog Breath]

But what about a "speeding bullet"?

What if the shot came from the book depository and the grassy knoll at the same time?

What if you were outrunning the bullet and ran into a June Bug? I wonder what kind of an exit wound a June Bug would leave.

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[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
Guns don't kill people, I kill people!

GET IT RIGHT, GODDAMNIT! http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/mad.gif

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You kill people? Is that your job?

[Rabble Rouser]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by VenoM:
<FONT COLOR="Red">i think he should have been put on deathrow, eye for a fucking eye, liver, spleen, etc. one less "killer" on the streets if u ask me.</FONT c>

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My philosophy as well. If you kill, you should be killed.


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[MAC]

Back on topic.

I threw a water ballon in school once. it was part of field day, a fun time for kids to do such things.
Had I done it at the wrong time I'd have got my ass busted. Even when I was 16 or 17.
BTW when I was 16 or 17 the LAST thing that seemed like fun was starting shit with crap like water balloons and losing my limited freedom.
But I had a cool Dad.


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[Wise Womcat]

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I'm not athelete, but I can out run a knife easlier than a gun, at least hopefully as far as the nearest iron bar.

I can remember walking out of 'Natural Born Kilers' (for the second time), and having an urge to kill the poor guy in a uniform who was vacuuming the carpet.

If I'd had a gun on me I might have just shot the poor bugger.

You know that little noise in the back of your throat, it's a laugh innit?

Guns and schoolkids don't mix, guns and morons don't mix, whether the police should all be allowed to carry guns is also an issue, especially the more moronic boys in blue.

I notice all the good old boys are leaving this thread well alone, it has been done to death before, respect.[/quote]

So...if I understand correctly...you say if you had a gun after seeing that movie, you might have killed someone...and then you say guns and morons don't mix well....call it a long shot...but are you calling yourself a moron?

Also, on to the real point. Can you outrun an arrow shot from a cross-bow? Why not take them away? Or just a regular bow and arrow. The reason MOST people want guns is for hunting. No one can help how people misuse them.

I believe the best method for gun control would be to but some kind of sensor on it where only the owner can shoot the gun. And only the owner can specify to the gun other users that can use it. And then that should be registered with someone, that way, if a gun kills someone, you know a list of people it could have been. But, will this ever happen? No. So should we ban guns? No. (did I lose my train of thought there?)



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[skalie]

It was a fleeting thought Mr Womcat, wouldn't/ couldn't have been able to pull any triggers in a movie theatre, trust me on that one.

As for being a moron, that is relative. I consider my self to be a moron in lots of ways, but the way I view 99% of the general public, where I live being a moron at least shows that the grey cells are working a bit.

As for you thoughts about gun control, that sensor idea is the future, and it will eventually be a feature on all new guns sold. Home made devices, and shotguns in the closet will always be around of course.....

Mobile phones send out a beep every four seconds or so, guns will also in the future, pinpointing their location at any given time.

Maybe.

Have to go back and think about this one.