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Barbie
01-28-2005, 10:35 PM
My daughter is colonizing Venus (odd that colonizing which means to take possession of or settle has the root word Colon in it)

Her Grade 6 class have been given the scenerio:

The Earth is in great peril - evacuation is needed immediately. It's up to them to create a proposal to colonize either another planet within our solar system or within the current orbit of Earth but with the complete understanding that there will be only ONE trip off of the Earth. The cost ($$) is too great to go back and forth.

Kristine will only be able to create a settlement of 600 people and must create a brochure telling why her colony would be recommended to go to.
She must have all the things "needed" (her teacher says). Social, Government, Services, etc...

On her first trip to Venus, she must take all the building materials needed to build there with the understanding that there will not be any way for her to get replacement pieces from Earth should they break down.

So far, she has Water Treatment and Recycling, Air Quality Control, a Scientific Monitoring and Research Centre, Waste Recovery and Processing Facility, Material Recycling and Sterilization Facillity, Transport, Farms (including Animal Farms, Hemp Farms, Wheat Farms, Produce Farms), Greenhouses, Facilities to processing items from these farms to create bread, clothes, etc...of course, the scale of these companies is small... - there is a City Hall which has contact with Earth so long as Earth is around. There will be Fire/Police/Emergency Services/Hospital - the main form of transportation will be walking and bike - and out of Kristine's mouth - a communist way of life:

"Communism is a society without money, without a state, without property and without social classes. People come together to carry out a project or to respond to some need of the human community but without the possibility of their collective activity taking the form of an enterprise that involves wages and the exchange of its products. The circulation of goods is not accomplished by means of exchange: quite the contrary, the by-word for this society is "from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs".

Kristine really liked that idea. I wonder about her sometimes. Though in theory, it looks good to me too.

Anyhoo




If this were real...life...where would you colonize? What would you do? What would your brochure look like?

SimpleSimon
01-29-2005, 03:50 AM
Venus?

Surface temps high enough to melt aluminum? No, I repeat no, water at the surface, very little in the air. Sulfuric acid clouds, surface pressure 900 times that of earth. Day more than a month long.

Better to go with an Apollo asteroid as base of manufacturing for an O'Neill colony.

Torque
01-29-2005, 04:33 AM
All she needed to take was an earth destruction ray, and a way to send the threats to earth. All the other stuff the colony needs will be on it's way poste haste, as long as she wants it.

ms. bing
01-30-2005, 02:19 PM
if the earth is going down, the kind thing to do would be to go with it.
ashes to ashes, so to speak... can't have us living on to fuck up another planet.

Barbie
01-31-2005, 06:17 PM
Venus?

Surface temps high enough to melt aluminum? No, I repeat no, water at the surface, very little in the air. Sulfuric acid clouds, surface pressure 900 times that of earth. Day more than a month long.

Better to go with an Apollo asteroid as base of manufacturing for an O'Neill colony.



So complicated for Grade 6...but if she wants to get into a good university and get a great degree to move the US where she can get a better job...we'll go with your thoughts :)

MAC
01-31-2005, 07:09 PM
I must note that the teacher's scenario involved the earth being destroyed

I guess she first taught those 11 year olds that people immigrated to the north american continent because europe was destroyed.

historically creatures that move around for survival die in huge numbers anyway

it's alwasy best to move for opportunity

so here's my scenario:

you can't make crap for wages on earth but you have a chance to get some prime real-estate on the newly renovated and livable Titan! With luxurious european style loft apartments and a pub on every corner!

GO!

SimpleSimon
01-31-2005, 09:19 PM
So complicated for Grade 6...but if she wants to get into a good university and get a great degree to move the US where she can get a better job...we'll go with your thoughts :)

Go to: http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Tech/Space/

check out the project designs, follow the links. Loads of info.

Barbie
01-31-2005, 09:24 PM
Go to: http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Tech/Space/

check out the project designs, follow the links. Loads of info.


Awesome! Thanks. :)

Barbie
01-31-2005, 09:25 PM
I must note that the teacher's scenario involved the earth being destroyed

I guess she first taught those 11 year olds that people immigrated to the north american continent because europe was destroyed.

historically creatures that move around for survival die in huge numbers anyway

it's alwasy best to move for opportunity

so here's my scenario:

you can't make crap for wages on earth but you have a chance to get some prime real-estate on the newly renovated and livable Titan! With luxurious european style loft apartments and a pub on every corner!

GO!

Keep in mind that my kid is a commie!

MAC
02-01-2005, 01:36 AM
*MAC digs out his old reindeer hat and tall black shiny boots*

congratulations!

your daughter has yust wolunteered to colonise wenus for our glorious republic!

Barbie
02-01-2005, 01:56 PM
Go to: http://www.aleph.se/Trans/Tech/Space/

check out the project designs, follow the links. Loads of info.

Funny, that website is from Transhumanists.

Something that after readying Oryx & Crake (http://www.thehypertribe.net/forum/showthread.php?t=10245) and The Handmaids Tale (http://www.editoreric.com/greatlit/books/Handmaid.html) I've been interested in reading into.

Very scientific. I wish Kol would engage the conversation in L.S. on the summation. But he's still staring at Titan.