the gayest movie ever...I fear

[MAC]

you may recall that Ian Mckellen, the actor who portrayed gandalf in the LOR trilogy, created quite a stir when the news reported that he was openly gay. Kol even sited an aquaintence of his who love the movies until he heard that and then decided he wouldn't go see the last one(Despite Gandalf's sexual preferences).

well, that was just a gay ACTOR

"Alexander" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0346491/) (the new oliver stone movie about alexander the great) is apaprently geared towards exploring the "bisexual" nature of men of those times.

"We go into his bisexuality. It may offend some people, but sexuality in those days was a different thing. Pre-Christian morality. Young boys were with boys when they wanted to be." (http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/34381.htm)


I honestly don't know what the truth is about that. But I've skipped movies for lots of reasons. I've never had to consider skipping one because the historical figure in it kissed guys.
(and I don't mean "the Godfather" type kissing)

I was really looking forward to this movie about this man. Now I wonder if I know anything about this man and I wonder if Stone is gonna try to shove this down my throat (pardon the pun) at the expense of historical accuracy.
When you watch a hollywood flick based on real ppl and real events you know that alot of things then don't translate well to modern times. We'd have no idea what alot of the tools and daily rituals would be about. But it's nice to see something that offers a better perspective than a photo of a copperplate etching in a text book. it's nice to see colors and textures on buildings and clothes and realise that these ancient people where still people. I am assuming all that type of stuff will be in the movie. You also expect depictions of great events and you KNOW they have to change some of the layout, location, and lighting to make it photogenic. I expect that.
But in every story of men doing what men do is the love interest angle. men are ridiculously motivated but something that will never be as physically pleasing as the anticipationof it is. Normally that's some sultry woman with perfect skin who, eventually, takes off her dress. I ponder just how they will sum up a very powerful and serious emotion in a scene that translates to every person...without just making it look gay.

the word "gratuitous" pops to mind

oh...and colin farrel is a queer
he kissed dudes!

[ms. bing]

they do have historical data to look to.
from the greeks (which we all know about them) to "The Epic of Gilgamesh" there is well documented proof that prior to Christian morality bisexuality in men was not uncommon.

think of it this way. you go out on a campaign of sorts and it's just guys as far as the eye can see for perhaps a year or more. you get really close. it's that or sheep, and the sheep wiggle and don't seem to be enjoying themselves.
and never forget that they kept thier women so closely cloistered they were often difficult to access. virginity was highly prized because that was the only way a man could know that his offspring were of a certain family line, so if a man approached a woman in a sexual manner he basically had two choices: rape or marriage. not all women were the marrying kind, and at times you could lose your head, or other vital organs, for raping the wrong man's sister or daughter. then there's all those kids that invariably would come from such unions.

for a man, men were just a reasonable way to let go of some tension. this was at a time when relieving that kind of tension was just as natural as scratching one's head. men had needs. whether women had needs or not is not really documented, and who knew about those crazy females anyway?
so if the fact of bisexuality is treated in a way that is not overpowering of the main message of the film, then it is justified. like if there were a particular favorite boy whom he took as a lover when out on campaigns, or something. that boy would have been important to the honest retelling of the story.

[Asmodeus]

*smacks head* so THATS why the Greeks wore togas. Easy access. Shuda thunked it.

I guess all those references in Plutarch, Marcus Arielius, etc. of, "loving him like a brother..." was really an admission of pillow biting. Hmmm...

[MAC]

what she's saying is KY jelly was the answer to bi-sexuality

[Barbie]

they do have historical data to look to.
from the greeks (which we all know about them) to "The Epic of Gilgamesh" there is well documented proof that prior to Christian morality bisexuality in men was not uncommon.


Jews didn't have morality? :eek:

[MAC]

it's all that "laying at the breast of Abraham" crap

[Koliedrus]

This girl is engaged to a Greek dude and it's time for the "mother-daughter" talk.

"Honey, since he's Greek, he may ask you to turn over on your wedding night. You don't have to if you don't want to."

Sure enough, wedding night arrives, they're going at it and he asks her to turn over.

"My mom told me I don't have to if I don't want to."

"Ok, but you're the one who wanted kids."

[SimpleSimon]

Jews didn't have morality? :eek:


You didn't think Jacob actually "wrestled" with that angel all night, did you?

[MuffyTheVampyreLayer]

So they take the gay out of troy and now they have to gay up other movies to make up for it?... bloody hollywood.