Trouble in paradise? [kinda long]

[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">Ok, I may not the be best author for something like this but here goes anyway.

There have been a few complaints recently that we are a bit hypocritical in how we act around here. Certain members who have recently joined have not been welcomed with open arms. Certain other members have taken a thrasheing at most of our fingertips, by way of our words. What I want to konw is... have we done these things on a case by case basis? Flamming as the need was seen to arise? Or did we just carry over baggage from other forums into this new one?

And if it IS just old hostilities, can we not drop them? I have had a mishap or too in my time here, and anyone I no longer to talk with... I dont. That simple. Wasnt always so... I used to do the saem pantywaist shit I am talking about. The whole "I'll hate you here as well" bit.

That's changed for me, and I humbly ask that it try to change for the rest of you as well.

See, what I view as the vision of this place is to be a haven where different people from different pointa of view can come and hash out all sorts of shit. Yeah, we still fuck about with lighthearted fluff... but we have also helped some of our own thru a tight spot or 5. Isn't that the point here?

Anyway, more likely than not I've lost the original focus of what I was getting at here. I'll close this post with this thought... Are we just fooling ourselves here, or are we actually just a 'reach around squad'?

ok, I lied... I just wanna add that I'd REALLY like to see serious comments to this only. I wont even think of trying to force your hand into how a reply should be structured, but I do ask that if a reply would be naught but drivel, please dont make one. Thanks.</FONT c>

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[zoey]

What I want to konw is... have we done these things on a case by case basis? Flamming as the need was seen to arise? Or did we just carry over baggage from other forums into this new one?
I can't answer this personally for everyone else, but i don't 'carry baggage' over from the spf when it comes to the new members here. if i act less than kindly towards one of them, it's not because 'he and i were in a huge flame war' or because 'he said this to me so now i have t o keep doing this' and etc....it's because i don't like them. i do have that right don't i? without having to be fake and act as if i do like them?
That's changed for me, and I humbly ask that it try to change for the rest of you as well.
I feel that you are pretty much the only person to admit that you did the same thing toward another forum member (i'll leave her unamed as to open new wounds but i'm sure everyone can guess who), and that it was wrong. And that you're not trying to justify it, if your request came from anyone else i wouldn't have considered it.

Are we just fooling ourselves here, or are we actually just a 'reach around squad'?
You know my thoughts on this one




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[Sinister Her]

Let us be real here. The 'other place' was not exactly a serious chat forum. I believe that most of the posters there are there simply to blow off steam. You can bash, humiliate, degrade (etc) anyone you feel the need to and, more often than not, it's laughed at. You may even get a virtual pat on the back if you use words larger than four characters in length in doing so. The kind of people that are content with what is the SPF are a different breed than what I see here. Sure, we all probably had a little fun doing the above over 'there' for a time, but it wasn't enough. Like minds have found their way here and it's a much better place because of that. I've no regrets about what went on over there because that's what that place is all about. What I do regret is that others took SPF so seriously and expected to actually know anyone from what was posted in such a forum. There's a time and a place for everything and I hold no petty grudges.

Forgive the babble-on as I'm still knocking the crusties from my eyes.

[Pianomahnn]

In my opinion, flaming someone when you mean it, on the internet is just plain and simply, pathetic. End of story.

Calm the fuck down people. It isn't like the real world where you HAVE to deal with certain people. You don't like someone? Don't talk to them, respond to them, etc. It will go away.

I love everyone. http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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[MAC]

p-man nailed it.

you don't like someone?
don't talk to them.
If it pisses you off that they post
it must really eat your lunch that they drive down your streets and breath your air.

You think I loose any sleep at night over how you act or post?

You don't have to be genius.
You don't have to be a fine orator.
All you need to do is think.
And when something catches your interest, or stimulates your thought, post it.

Add your part to this place
Don't tear down someone elses.




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Don't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding.

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[skalie]

My first ever post in a forum took place two days after this place was set up. Being a luddite I posted some pretty dismal stuff over there starting threads just to test out UBB script etc. etc.

At that time RW and a bunch of other old whores were whinging and moaning about the spf and saying that they had a better place for those with brains.

I took offence of course, fuck em, fuck off, I like it here it's fun, you don't like it fuck off and stop complaining.

Then I very drunkly got myself banned, as one does. I was very very rude to the mods 'over there' and deservedly got removed, albeit for moral purposes.

So, fuck, I've committed suicide from forum life, a hole in the daily agenda. Better say goodbye, almost registered at that hippy hollow the asulym when I find a link to here. Many many familiar names.

I post a goodbye, a one sided version of what happened, intending to bugger off, and much to my surprise I get welcome messages from all angles, RW has a knack of sweet talking for one.

To the point?

I came here with a big chip on my shoulder with a teletubbie, but since then the pastry eating bastard, except for a drawn out tussle with a little woman, has really calmed down with the non-PC stuff, thank you.

His comrade in arms stopped flying flags, thank you once agree.

Quibbles over, I fucking enjoy both of your senses of humour big time.

Now all I want for everyone is access to area 51 on a read only basis and I'll stop pesking our beerless leader whenever I get the chance.

(Had 51 not been intact at the time of war someone would probably told me not to be such a cry baby and reregister, I assumed, stupidly, that my IP had been banned, and so had way too much time on my hands to campaign).

And I'll post a photo.

Ha, KB, you thought you had a long one.

[Stevo]

Everyone here should be familiar with my history around these parts.

everyone here didn't want me here.

But you gave me the benefit of the doubt, and all you said was "WELCOME"

And it should always be that way here.

Zoey.. I love ya. But if people say you're driving the newbies off.. then that would mean you dont really want me here. I was the same as them. you might have quarrels with them, but is there anything wrong with a simple welcome?

Everyone here that isn't RW needs to just forget this shit. It isn't about us directly.

that's all i have to say about this.

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[estero]

<font color=pink>I guess everyone deserves a chance here because how one is at the spf isn't exactly how one will be here. I'm a good example of that. Even though I tend to ruffle some feathers here and there, well I did mostly at the beginning of my stay here, but no one wanted me here either.

The other day when I saw sinister was invited here, the first words outta my mouth were soemthing like, "oh gawd, I hate her.." but I hated her spf persona, and if may or may not be the same here. From what I've seen its not. Even though she has done things that I do not agree with (which im sure you can all try to figure out), she deserves a chance, just like I deserved a chance.

So, welcome sinister. Have a nice flight http://www.thehypertribe.net/ubb/smile.gif

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[King Bastard]

<FONT COLOR="Red">My thanks to everyone for staying on topic with this one, and not letting it degrade into a thread about bashing anyone.</FONT c>

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[zoey]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by Stevo:

Zoey.. I love ya. But if people say you're driving the newbies off.. then that would mean you dont really want me here. I was the same as them.
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i had no set opinion of you from the spf, other than "oh he's the guy who doesn't seem to like me much. *shrug*, good for him"
So no, you can't say that i necessarily didn't want you here.

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[This message has been edited by zoey (edited 05-14-2001).]

[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
I can respect their mind and what they have to say, provided that they say it to the best of their ability.
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Years of failed snail mail led me to this conclusion.....if you write a letter post it straight away. Many long overdue letters I'd written didn't make it past base two
; get it in an envelope, base three; find a stamp, home base; post the fucking thing.

A reread two weeks later was invariably fatal, resulting in screwed up pieces of paper with the 'what the fuck was I thinking?' attitude.

Here in forum land I sometimes have a nervous finger, shall I post this? My answer 95% of the time, fuck it what the hell. No rereads etc.

This combined with the fact that I'm 6-8 ahead of most of you lot can lead to stupid fucking arguements with me in cocktail hour mood as opposed to morning coffee time.

Actually, could have addressed this one to you RW, you're the only one I end up arguing with these days anyhow, oh how I've mellowed.

[skalie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><HR>Originally posted by RogueWarrior:
And why do you think it is that we butt heads so often, skalie?

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Would it be that your ancestors wore dresses?

[Dog Breath]

This place is a bastion of learning.
Everyone here has a right to be here and everyone adds something.
If this was a country club of like minded people stroking each other's....egos I wouldn't post here more than twice.
We need to disagree on things in order to bring out new ideas and arguments. If we all agree on a subject, no one learns a damn thing!
There are several people whom I dislike here but they are my greatest teachers and the ones I rely on the most. I don't come here for some feel-good back patting. I come here to pick apart issues which we all face and make some sense of them. Having this diverse group here to work at a problem from every conceivable angle, just reading the replies you can't help but learn something.



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Woof.
If it's so sick, why are you laughing?
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[Sinister Her]

I'm not liking how in parts of this it sounds like I was some terrible person over at 'the other place' and I deserve forgiving and a new start over here. I don't think that's the case at all (just for the record). I have no regrets for my actions there nor do I feel I need to be given a second chance. My twisted sense of humor (call it what you will) is what it is and that's not going to change. With that said, ingore me if you'd like or get to know more than the twisted sense of humor that was me there. I don't need forgiving; blow that out your ass. If you're can't look deeper, that's your own problem.

COFFEE!

[skalie]

I for one think that you will fit in here fine Sinister Her.

A thread like 'trickle trickle' was cool as fuck, but it made me cringe a little knowing that it was just a click away from japscat etc.

Post it here again in the test forum or something, I like seeing all the staunch fathers go all cushy.

[Sinister Her]

I was really surprised that the thread (Trickle Trickle) went as well as it did over there. I was prepared for the worst and was touched by the replies. Somehow people were able to control themselves and keep 'Japscat Type Chat' out of it. I'll do that ..the test forum, eh?

It'll be there in a bit.

Thank you ..sincerely. I'll be just fine here.

[Skeet]

Just to add my worthless bit...

It seems about the time i showed up here you all started discussing having problems. Either they were here before i got here and you all just now are bringing it out into the open, or they started about the time i arrived. Either way, I really really like this fuckin place, and I will be sorely upset with anyone (including myself) who makes this an unhappy environment. The majority of the people i know here are the same ones (from SPF) who helped me get through the hardest time of my life. You all have no idea the influence you have had in my healing process, couldn't have done it alone.

Lets all get along. For Skeet.

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