Things to Remember:

[Barbie]

Abduction Precautions for Women

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door."
The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when they're home alone at night.
Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory
was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

Be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it, and it's better to be safe than sorry.

[mute]

The elbow kicks ass, but Tae Kwon Do is unpractical. Don't take Tae Kwon Do for self defense purposes, take a martial art that is more practical (just a tip). And I'd say, other than that, knee them in the balls. You can always drop a man if you square em off in the junk.

[ms. bing]

the crying baby is a recorded urban legend. these types of things often do find their way into media. these stories are meant to be a moral lesson (in this one the lesson is of the impracticality of women living alone).
also, the man in the backseat is also an often told urban legend. it originated in the south as a racial statement during the 1800s. originally, it was a black man who had hidden himself in a woman's carriage while she was out late visiting and the driver was irresponsibly dozing during her visit.
like in the movie, some real-life predators do utilize ideas they hear from urban legends, but more often than not the legend itself is meant to teach a lesson or promote the values of the culture. they are not to be taken seriously.
women are most often kidnapped, raped and murdered by people they know. it is far more important to promote the awareness of personal safety in women when dealing with their everyday surroundings and relationships (dates, friends, coworkers).
on a side note and as comic relief: recently in tyler a man tried to abduct a woman who was jogging alone in a local park. it was broad daylight, but she was pretty much alone. she screamed bloody murder and kicked the shit out of this guy. the police captured him shortly after he fled, mostly because he was driving erratically. he kept swerving when he tried to wipe the blood out of his eyes from the beating he took.

[Asmodeus]

1. The head is the strongest part of the body, bone wise. The elbow- especially in women- is merely the sharpest.

2. "If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse..."

kick the shit out of him or her, spray yer pepper spray, or scream bloody murder.

3. "If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy."

I have never seen a trunk that had the back end of tail lights just right where you could get to them easily.

5. "A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat."

Good advice. I do it, and not because I am afraid of being kidnapped and raped. lol.

"B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars."

Or just open yer door really hard and dent the shit out of the van. Then do it again just to make sure.

"C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)"

Thanks alot. You have just made all the husbands and sons who take their wives and mothers Christmas shopping potential rapists to women's minds.

"6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot)."

So are elavators. A bop on the head, hit the stop button and go to town... I am kidding you know.

"7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!"

Depends on if you can control that itsy little thing that kills alot of people everday- called panic.

"8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic..."

A sympathetic woman? Where??? hehe

Seriously folks, the best way to stay safe at all times is to pay attention to your surroundings at all times.

[Torque]

Situational awareness is more important than anything.
If you see them, and they know you see them, you've avoided 99 percent of all bad situations with other folks.
The other 1 percent is why you carry a gun you practice with regularly. You must have already decided that you are ready to kill someone if needed.

Just keep your eyes open. You can have excellent situational awareness and still have fun and not look like a wierd paranoid ninja.

[Kayla]

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control,


that seems to be a bit of a contradiction.

[Koliedrus]

If it seems to be a contradiction when the circumstance presents itself, you'll be a "victim".

[Billyman]

1) Take classes, learn to use it, don't be afraid to.

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[SimpleSimon]

The guy in the backseat in no urban legend. A girl I was dating in college was the closing shift manager of the local DQ in Oregon City, OR in 1975. She locked the store up one thursday, got in her car, started it and a guy popped up behind her, put a knife to her throat, and made her drive him out of town into some pretty empty countryside.

She had enough time to overcome the immediate fear and grew enraged by the stupidity of the situation, so she started driving very fast and pushing the envelope of what her car would do, telling him since he was gonna rape and kill her anyway, she might as well kill them both. He threatened her more, she drove faster, till finally he did what she said to do - he threw the knife out the window.

She stopped as soon thereafter as practicable for her safety - at the Beavercreek, OR fire station - 4 fire men dragged him out of the car and beat the bejesus out of him. He went to prison for 8 yrs for attempted rape and kidnapping.

Keep your head, take advantage of opportunities to act in your own defense, and don't be afraid to die - you are much more likely to win through.

[ms. bing]

according to "The Vanishing Hitchhiker: Urban Legends and Their Meanings" by Jan Harold Brunvand (University of Utah):
the legend of the man in the backseat first appeared in print in 1968. the author first documented the story in 1967 as told by a University of Utah student, and her version was set in Ogden, Utah. after the first publication, more than 20 texts turned up at the University of Indiana alone, all with changes in locality and setting. The student who contributed the story in 1967 admitted having heard it also set in both Aurora and Denver, Colorado.
as i said before, the fact that it is an urban legend does not mean that it has not been copycatted by actual perpetrators, but the fact remains that a woman is far more likely to be assaulted by someone she knows.

[Barbie]

www.snopes.com

[ms. bing]

that's actually pretty cool.

[Escape Artist]

Abduction Precautions for Women

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

Good luck - I will likely have a blunt object in hand, and my ability to hit you over the head with it greatly exceeds your ability to elbow me. Take self-defense classes and use common sense. An elbow increases your odds like a gun makes you God.

2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

I'm trying to rob you, and having placed us both in a situation where a successful robbery is possible, and you try that - I hope you find a midnight traveler to call an ambulance. I'll beat your ass AND take your fucking wallet. Be a sheep and give them what they want, fight outside of those boundaries.

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

If you're so god-damned stupid as to allow that, if not encourage it - you'll end up very much dead and disappeared into a 6' hole. Lethal force in any encounter of the sort, and don't feel bad.

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

Quit using your fucking cars as a public office. Quit assuming that you're totally safe because you're doing x-task and clearly no one will mess with you. Take care of that shit at home - window glass is easily shattered. You get in the car, put the fucking shifter at "D" and skedaddle elsewhere. No one with brains will randomly hit a neighborhood.

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

I'm gonna call bullshit here...us criminal opportunists aren't gonna fucking stake out for your Marshall Fields shopping ass to eventually scrabble out.

Money isn't getting made by waiting on you to finally show up and yield a whole $100 tops. You sit there and wait for three people, you've lost a ton of cash. Catch them getting OUT of the cars and get the hell out afterward. Damn.

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

[b]See the above - are you shopping in a mall or a damned mental institution?

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

More bullshit. I point a gun at you, most women will automagically assume that it's in their best interests to do as I say. Define "under his control" - please. Barrel in your face just resolved that conundrum.

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

Sympathetic on either point - my ass. My grandmother knew better than that. Fuck off and grow up.

9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door."
The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when they're home alone at night.
Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory
was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

Please pass on having some god-damned sense, you fucking halfbaked idiots...christ, people like me could likely rob your house and have a good laugh; my only deterrent here is lack of suitable crap to justify it, I've better means.

And I don't really care to rape you or otherwise...no thanks.

Number one: Secure your fucking houses.

Two: You're somewhere that's potentially dangerous, and you aren't paying attention, then - you get what you deserve. Obsess about your Marshall Field's bags later. The important thing is to get home and start wrapping the contents.

Three: If you feel you're physically incompetent or inexperienced in defending yourself, have at least two measures - mace and knife, even, and be damned good at using them.

Be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it, and it's better to be safe than sorry..

[Barbie]

[QUOTEOriginally Posted by Barbie
Abduction Precautions for Women

1. Tip from Tae Kwon Do: The elbow is the strongest point on your body. If you are close enough to use it, do!

[B]Good luck - I will likely have a blunt object in hand, and my ability to hit you over the head with it greatly exceeds your ability to elbow me. Take self-defense classes and use common sense. An elbow increases your odds like a gun makes you God.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Igit-from-space: do you expect a woman to just stand there and let this happen? Do you think a women should just stand then and let a potential abduction happen?[/COLOR]

2. If a robber asks for your wallet and/or purse, DO NOT HAND IT TO HIM. Toss it away from you....chances are that he is more interested in your wallet and/or purse than you, and he will go for the wallet/purse. RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!

[B]I'm trying to rob you, and having placed us both in a situation where a successful robbery is possible, and you try that - I hope you find a midnight traveler to call an ambulance. I'll beat your ass AND take your fucking wallet. Be a sheep and give them what they want, fight outside of those boundaries.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Ladies: toss the fucking purse (that alone will distract him) and as stated above: RUN LIKE MAD IN THE OTHER DIRECTION!. Or stand there as loser boy here suggests and be a passive victim.[/COLOR]

3. If you are ever thrown into the trunk of a car, kick out the back tail lights and stick your arm out the hole and start waving like crazy. The driver won't see you, but everybody else will. This has saved lives.

[B]If you're so god-damned stupid as to allow that, if not encourage it - you'll end up very much dead and disappeared into a 6' hole. Lethal force in any encounter of the sort, and don't feel bad.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Again retard, if she had not elbowed him from #1, then of course he's going to try to abduct her and possibly throw her in the trunk. Fuck nuts, are you paying attention? How was she to prevent this if she was not to use some sort of self defence? [/COLOR]

4. Women have a tendency to get into their cars after shopping, eating, working, etc., and just sit (doing their checkbook, or making a list, etc. DON'T DO THIS!) The predator will be watching you, and this is the perfect opportunity for him to get in on the passenger side, put a gun to your head, and tell you where to go. AS SOON AS YOU GET INTO YOUR CAR, LOCK THE DOORS AND LEAVE.

[B]Quit using your fucking cars as a public office. Quit assuming that you're totally safe because you're doing x-task and clearly no one will mess with you. Take care of that shit at home - window glass is easily shattered. You get in the car, put the fucking shifter at "D" and skedaddle elsewhere. No one with brains will randomly hit a neighborhood.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]They may not randomly hit a neighbourhood, dumbass, but they will in a dark parking lot because a young women who has to close a late shift at the mall downtown...she's the type that is being prayed on ... do you suggest that she sit at home on welfare? No..she needs to learn to be aware of her surroundings and suggestions like these, are good hints for the niave.[/COLOR]

5. A few notes about getting into your car in a parking lot, or parking garage:
A.) Be aware: look around you, look into your car, at the passenger side floor, and in the back seat.
B.) If you are parked next to a big van, enter your car from the passenger door. Most serial killers attack their victims by pulling them into their vans while the women are attempting to get into their cars.
C.) Look at the car parked on the driver's side of your vehicle, and the passenger side. If a male is sitting alone in the seat nearest your car, you may want to walk back into the mall, or work, and get a guard/policeman to walk you back out. IT IS ALWAYS BETTER TO BE SAFE THAN SORRY. (And better paranoid than dead.)

[B]I'm gonna call bullshit here...us criminal opportunists aren't gonna fucking stake out for your Marshall Fields shopping ass to eventually scrabble out.

Money isn't getting made by waiting on you to finally show up and yield a whole $100 tops. You sit there and wait for three people, you've lost a ton of cash. Catch them getting OUT of the cars and get the hell out afterward. Damn.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Single celled minded shit: This isn't about money...most of the time, shit that asshole men "opportunitist" you call them...aren't in it for money where women are concerned...they are in it for rape and control. As it said, BE AWARE OF YOUR SURROUNDINGS. and stay away from people like EA.[/COLOR]

6. ALWAYS take the elevator instead of the stairs. (Stairwells are horrible places to be alone and the perfect crime spot).

[b]See the above - are you shopping in a mall or a damned mental institution?[/b]

7. If the predator has a gun and you are not under his control, ALWAYS RUN! The predator will only hit you (a running target) 4 in 100 times; And even then, it most likely WILL NOT be a vital organ. RUN!

[B]More bullshit. I point a gun at you, most women will automagically assume that it's in their best interests to do as I say. Define "under his control" - please. Barrel in your face just resolved that conundrum.[/B]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]dumbass.\[/COLOR]

8. As women, we are always trying to be sympathetic: STOP. It may get you raped, or killed. Ted Bundy, the serial killer, was a good-looking, well educated man, who ALWAYS played on the sympathies of unsuspecting women. He walked with a cane, or a limp, and often asked "for help" into his vehicle or with his vehicle, which is when he abducted his next victim.

[b]Sympathetic on either point - my ass. My grandmother knew better than that. Fuck off and grow up.[/b]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Again, this is for young women who don't have a clue...you're a great help. When are you leaving??? :)[/COLOR]

9. Another Safety Point: Someone just told me that her friend heard a crying baby on her porch the night before last, and she called the police because it was late and she thought it was weird. The police told her "Whatever you do, DO NOT open the door."
The lady then said that it sounded like the baby had crawled near a window, and she was worried that it would crawl to the street and get run over. The policeman said, "We already have a unit on the way, whatever you do, DO NOT open the door." He told her that they think a serial killer has a baby's cry recorded, and uses it to coax women out of their homes thinking that someone dropped off a baby. He said they have not verified it, but have had several calls by women saying that they hear baby crying outside their doors, when they're home alone at night.
Please pass this on and DO NOT open the door for a crying baby. This e-mail should probably be taken seriously because the Crying Baby theory
was mentioned on America's Most Wanted this past Saturday when they profiled the serial killer in Louisiana.

[b]Please pass on having some god-damned sense, you fucking halfbaked idiots...christ, people like me could likely rob your house and have a good laugh; my only deterrent here is lack of suitable crap to justify it, I've better means.

And I don't really care to rape you or otherwise...no thanks.

Number one: Secure your fucking houses.

Two: You're somewhere that's potentially dangerous, and you aren't paying attention, then - you get what you deserve. Obsess about your Marshall Field's bags later. The important thing is to get home and start wrapping the contents.

Three: If you feel you're physically incompetent or inexperienced in defending yourself, have at least two measures - mace and knife, even, and be damned good at using them.

Be reminded that the world we live in has a lot of crazies in it, and it's better to be safe than sorry.=Escape Artist].[/QUOTE][/b]

[COLOR=DarkOrange]Aren't you gone yet, suckytit?[/COLOR]